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Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by d23 »

kubb wrote: post #179
chaostheory wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t have the full picture. You’re missing a lot of data > And the rank-and-file Googlers will defend this because they think they caught God by the ankles with their 150k/year salary That’s closer to their intern salaries. Total comp is more like double or more Much of the rank and file’s total compensation is also in stock Add to that if you wanted to, you can do the minimum and just coast. No one is going to…

> Maybe you shouldn’t comment on something you know barely anything about? Very weak counterpoint, essentially ad personam, trying to insinuate my ignorance, telling me to shut up. Not impressive.

He brought up that you are grossly off the mark on salary. And it’s a pretty broad brush to say everyone at google is “timid” and this is the only reason they don’t unionize.

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Post by chaostheory »

kubb wrote: post #179
chaostheory wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t have the full picture. You’re missing a lot of data > And the rank-and-file Googlers will defend this because they think they caught God by the ankles with their 150k/year salary That’s closer to their intern salaries. Total comp is more like double or more Much of the rank and file’s total compensation is also in stock Add to that if you wanted to, you can do the minimum and just coast. No one is going to…

> Maybe you shouldn’t comment on something you know barely anything about? Very weak counterpoint, essentially ad personam, trying to insinuate my ignorance, telling me to shut up. Not impressive.

Yes, having a counterpoint with a relevant data point that you missed is “weak”

you are ignorant, making your argument weak and just plain wrong. Should people no longer point out when comments are really wrong? You’re also over generalizing while being completely incorrect ie making shit up

Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by DeusExMachina »

belltaco wrote: post #198
passwordoops wrote: post #5

... And getting caught flat-footed against Microsoft (and Adobe, but but not as loudly) in the precise field Alphabet is supposedly the insurmountable leader. Remind me again how big-co CEOs assume "all the risk"?

> Remind me again how big-co CEOs assume "all the risk"? Notice how everyone in this thread is calling Sundar out and not other people in the org who may be at fault too? It's the buck stops here thing.

A few negative comments on an internet forum don't really affect his $226M compensation.

Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff »

code_runner wrote: post #145
malermeister wrote: post #98

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One benefit is stronger labor protection from layoffs like these. Having labor be more powerful can also help when execs push for morally questionable projects. Lastly, FAANG employees are working class.

if you’re earning sky high base comp + stock + benefits at these places you’re not working class. You are incredibly out of touch.

Not if you have a visa to worry about. Doesn’t matter how much money you have then. You need another job in 30 days or you and your entire family are at risk.

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Post by fatfingerd »

bmcquade wrote: post #153
andrewstuart wrote: post #59

I simply don’t see what good this CEO has done. He’s destroyed googles reputation with developers. Destroyed customer trust in Google products. Done nothing to fix googles reputation for terrible customer service. Led Google to third place in cloud computing. AND been thrashed by Microsoft / ChatGPT, putting Googles core business at risk. Why is this guy CEO?

Sundar became CEO at a time when Google needed a leader who could build consensus across different product areas. Sundar was the right person for this role. Unfortunately Sundar is also relatively weak at setting a bold vision to ensure the company continues to grow and innovate, as Larry had done. So under Sundar the company has slowly shifted from being innovative to being very risk averse, incentivising not making…

> Unfortunately Sundar is also relatively weak at setting a bold vision to ensure the company continues to grow and innovate, as Larry had done.

I'm willing to presume Larry had bold visions, but if I grouped google products, I think successful and launched before 2006 would be the same.

I think it's time to admit that google has been a conglomerate for decades and could no longer run with innovative management. The correct thing to do is to break it up so subdivisions of today can be innovative companies, or reliable dividend payers, or bankrupt.

Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by DeusExMachina »

rvnx wrote: post #48
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #26

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What's even the risk? If the CEO of Google gets fired, he just ends up as the CEO of another Fortune 500 company. If he can't even land that role, he can just go around pocketing $50k/event speaking fee. Of course, that's only if he doesn't want to degrade himself by taking on a VP-level role at another Fortune 500 company.

No need to find a new job, 4% interest @ 225M USD = 9M USD yearly.

Oh, it's even better than that. This is just his compensation for last year. Add all previous years to it, plus stock he owns. Plus, the ability to get low interest loans which he can spend acquiring more assets.

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Post by mypornaccount »

malermeister wrote: post #203
code_runner wrote: post #145

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if you’re earning sky high base comp + stock + benefits at these places you’re not working class. You are incredibly out of touch.

The definition of working class is making their income from selling their labor as opposed to from capital. Everything else is an implementation detail.

I think it’s pretty ignorant to think a staff software engineer at Google and the cleaning lady are in the same boat

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Post by hobofan »

LadyCailin wrote: post #146
kevviiinn wrote: post #131

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I don't see how serving scam ads would impact google, they still get paid to do it

Short term, sure. But they are not a monopoly.

Maybe not in legal terms. However a 90% market share in a market where the majority of consumers never evaluates switching to a competitor, gives you so much leeway in execution, that there isn't much difference to a monopoly.

Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant

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Post by DSingularity »

andrewstuart wrote: post #67
s1k3s wrote: post #66

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Did he make them money?

The only thing he has done is not destroy the Google cash firehose. The advertising cash firehose is perhaps the only thing that matters at Google. But, having been severely caned by ChatGPT and left flat footed on AI i think it’s reasonable to say even that firehose is now at risk.

It’s really funny to read this over and over from so many people. You are saying google can’t match and surpass chatGPT? You know, google the people who invented the model architecture used by ChatGPT… the people who wrote the first ML training frameworks and the subsequent most popular one… the ones who designed hardware accelerators to minimize training and inference… the people with enough excess compute to probably train a model with even more parameters? Come on.
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