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I simply don’t see what good this CEO has done. He’s destroyed googles reputation with developers. Destroyed customer trust in Google products. Done nothing to fix googles reputation for terrible customer service. Led Google to third place in cloud computing. AND been thrashed by Microsoft / ChatGPT, putting Googles core business at risk. Why is this guy CEO?
I simply don’t see what good this CEO has done. He’s destroyed googles reputation with developers. Destroyed customer trust in Google products. Done nothing to fix googles reputation for terrible customer service. Led Google to third place in cloud computing. AND been thrashed by Microsoft / ChatGPT, putting Googles core business at risk. Why is this guy CEO?
Investors are too stupid to see what's going on. Have you seen the ad load (the amount of realestate used by ads) in a search results page? It has gone through the roof. It used to be a typical Google search ad was: title, 2 lines of text at most, and a URL. Now you have 10 or more lines in the top ad. Of course as you use more space for ads, revenue will go up. Even an idiot can see that. It's no magic. But yet the…
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Guy has made 226M in a year. He won't have to work another day in his life. What reputational risk are you talking about?
The risk is that all google failures, whether simply perceived or real, are publicly attributed to him. This is real and is one of many factors that influences the willingness of qualified candidates to seek CEO roles in the first place, let alone of very large, very well known companies. But it is certainly not the only factor, and it’s not even a very significant factor in most cases, when it comes to determining C…
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You anti-work guys are again showing your ignorance. A large chunk of techie compensation is in stock.
What difference does it make what form the compensation is in? Is your argument that because employees receive stock that they somehow have enough voting power to influence company policy? That’s laughable.
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"Shouldn't", "ought to" etc. don't hold in real life regardless of what we want or think as devs. A good illustration of this: https://old.reddit.com//r/recruitinghell/comments/qhg5jo/thi... The reality is that having passed an interview at a FAANG company, having any work experience at a FAANG company on your resume opens a lot of doors while looking for a new job, even if it's a few months. Being laid off from a FA…
You can argue till your blue in the face that it opens doors and another can just as easily argue that it closes doors for reasons not worth discussing. My point had nothing to do with either argument as it not interesting to me. My criticism was in the statement regarding the interview process validating the value of an ex FAANG employee over their experience from working at FAANG.
Why is that not worth discussing? Because there aren't any or are pretty weak?
Sundar is an example of what happens when you promote from within and rule out anyone with enemies. You get nice guys whom everyone "likes." The comment about sociopathic almost-CEO's is spot on. Tony, Andy, Anthony, and Vic all would have been terrible CEO's. On the other hand, Bill Coughran, Alan Eustace, Udi Manber, or Patrick Pichette would have been decent, at the very least. Maybe even very good.
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> Remind me again how big-co CEOs assume "all the risk"? Notice how everyone in this thread is calling Sundar out and not other people in the org who may be at fault too? It's the buck stops here thing.
A few negative comments on an internet forum don't really affect his $226M compensation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardnieva/2023/03/10/google-...
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Don't forget Vic. It's somewhat amazing how many failed, some nearly sociopathic, almost-CEOs Google had.
Ironically, Vic was was empowered to counter a similar panic an upstart more formidable than OpenAI. He brought a bold vision alright, but that's not sufficient to be a good leader.
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> if I grouped google products, I think successful and launched before 2006 would be the same In October 2006, YouTube was bought by Google for $1.65 billion.[11] Google Maps was launched in February 2005.[2] These are the last 2 Google products I use Search got replaced by DDG then Ecosia Chrome by Firefox Gmail by my own mail server My Pixel 2 ran out of security coverage and sick of buying a new phone every 2 year…
> my own mail server This is hardly reproductible. I guess that the standard place people go after gmail is fastmail. But getting a free equivalent is hard (at least I do not know any). I could host my mail but this is hard work and monitoring.
Gmail, GDocs, and GAnalytics have been the hardest replace. I can't find a reasonable free alt. to those.