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Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by TuringNYC »

boppo1 wrote: post #467
TuringNYC wrote: post #214

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I had a scare last year where Google supposedly gave me 30 days before they would shut off my Google account of 20yrs. Family photos, youtube videos, 20yrs of email, not to mention the treasure trove of personal documents on GDrive. It took two weeks to duplicate the content and back it up elsewhere. This is a paid tier Google account and I've yet to get an explanation on why this happened. It appears to be because o…

What did you use to backup your google photos?

BlackBlaze. It required some manual effort and scripting. It is on a manually triggered batch that i'm running quarterly. I wish there was a service that could do it, ideally on a more regular cadence.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by efreak »

koonsolo wrote: post #470
pyrale wrote: post #428

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Proton, or fastmail, or any number of other mail providers for that matter, don't control half of the internet. They don't associate personal accounts with professional accounts, and they can't block necessary services at a whim.

> they can't block necessary services at a whim why not?

Because they don't _control half the internet_. They only have one service you use, not 50. Your phone (voice), cloud storage (drive), website hosting (sites), chat (not even gonna try), music streaming (YouTube music), video hosting, etc aren't all dependent on the same single point of failure like they are with Google. All your mail provider can do is stop processing your email for you (at which point you switch providers). If Google doesn't like you, you lose _all_ of those things, likely all at once. Google even has a hand in your credit card transactions with Google Pay (though anecdotally, I've never actually seen anyone use Google Pay, so not sure how many people that would affect). Google provides such a diverse range of services that having them all shut down on you is a huge deal. I'm currently in the process of looking for a replacement for my legacy Google apps account, and that's just email.

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Post by ThunderSizzle »

ipaddr wrote: post #446
betwixthewires wrote: post #443

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I'm not buying this line of reasoning entirely. The problem isn't that you don't have options with regard to hosting, email, etc (with the notable exception of google play store), the problem is that once you've picked your option it's hard to migrate out, and as a customer you have a right IMO, whether in the terms or not, to a good faith effort on the part of the service vendor to sort our any problems you encounte…

Pick a provider with that option. Building a business on top of a business that can shut you without recourse is risky.

So no one should make an Android app, since the persistence of Android (with or without the play market) relies on Google not trying to lock it down into something similar to what Apple has.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by boppo1 »

TuringNYC wrote: post #491
boppo1 wrote: post #467

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What did you use to backup your google photos?

BlackBlaze. It required some manual effort and scripting. It is on a manually triggered batch that i'm running quarterly. I wish there was a service that could do it, ideally on a more regular cadence.

Does photos have an api, or are you doing some cursor/screenspace stuff?

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by natch »

tenuousemphasis wrote: post #341
natch wrote: post #248

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If they can’t help you frankly the problem is probably with you or your app. But who knows… what aspect of your users do you know about that Apple refuses to understand?

> If they can’t help you frankly the problem is probably with you or your app. Fanboy logic.

Note they were not forthcoming with more details, so I’d say your conclusion is premature.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by karteum »

account42 wrote: post #473
karteum wrote: post #423

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Notice that Google Takeout is broken with regards to non-UTF8 email encodings (for some of you who archive old emails). I noticed it when coding a small tool https://github.com/karteum/gmvaultdb to (among other things) import the mbox from Takeout into an sqlite DB : Google performs some encoding conversions that permanently break all non-ascii characters in non-UTF8 emails (they are all replaced by 0xEFBFBD). In ord…

I think for email it makes sense to have an offline IMAP setup (i.e. a copy of all mail is downloaded) on at least one device (e.g. your desktop) so that you can still access things if you are abruptly cut off from the provider. This can come in handy even for temporary outages.

I agree, but an an alternative to mbox/maildir format on your machine : I wrote https://github.com/karteum/gmvaultdb in order to have a single-file SQLite DB with all old email contents (all UTF-8 inside, simple/minimalistic schema), together with a small GUI to consult emails and do queries (full-text not fully implemented yet but this is the target) and all attachments extracted in a side folder so that I can directly browse with a file manager.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by aabbcc1241 »

TuringNYC wrote: post #214
kmeisthax wrote: post #59

Everyone here is commenting about overautomation, but this isn't an overautomation problem. It's a secondary sanctions problem. The developer isn't being banned for breaking Google's rules, he's being banned for having hired someone else who later broke those rules; and then that ban was transitively applied to their personal account as well. This is beyond the pale. Google should not have the power to decide who you…

I had a scare last year where Google supposedly gave me 30 days before they would shut off my Google account of 20yrs. Family photos, youtube videos, 20yrs of email, not to mention the treasure trove of personal documents on GDrive. It took two weeks to duplicate the content and back it up elsewhere. This is a paid tier Google account and I've yet to get an explanation on why this happened. It appears to be because o…

I tend to only use cloud drive as a mean to share files, but I do not trust them for permanent storage. Always keep offline copy (on multiple storage devices)

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Post by heleninboodler »

3np wrote: post #463
heleninboodler wrote: post #368

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> just don't link personal and company accounts Easier said than done, in my experience. Years ago I had to log into my Company's Play account on my computer for some specific reason, one time, and more than a year after that, my daughter purchased a game on my android phone and the CEO sent me a message saying "FYI, we just paid $3 for a princess coloring book app, please enjoy it with our compliments but please del…

Guess: Logged in using Chrome? IIRC Chrome has specific functionality regarding retaining and linking Google account information. This is how you get the account-selector. As mentioned in a sibling comment: Utilize browser profiles (Chromium-based/Firefox) or Multi-Account Containers (Firefox).

This may very well be the case, but it was years ago so I don't really know. This type of linking is something that always gives me the willies when it happens without warning and makes me think I should stay away from using components that are too "smart." I got really freaked out once when I was using a portable wireless access point owned by my employer (for on-call duties) in a starbucks and it told me a second device had attached to it. Turns out I had just bought a new iphone and Apple had stashed away the wifi password and automatically given it to the new phone, rather than the explanation being some hacker sitting near me in starbucks. I completely understand why they did this, but it really would have been nice to be asked if I mind if they store a copy of my password in the cloud.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by Qub3d »

scgtrp wrote: post #412
Qub3d wrote: post #379

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Obsidian is a self-hosted repository that ultimately stores everything as plaintext markdown (.md). It is 100% portable and by default owned by you. Protip: you can easily sync obsidian by sharing the top-level vault directory with syncthing. Its entirely transparent, you just start obsidian and open the vault, and changes you make on one system automatically appear on others. As for protonmail, its better than googl…

I think you mean IMAP. Protonmail supports SMTP (the mail-sending protocol; it needs to to interoperate with other mail servers) but not IMAP (the client side mail-reading protocol). SNMP is something entirely unrelated, afaik.

Ah, yes you're correct. Total brain fart, unfortunately too late to edit so my mistake must live on in infamy...
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