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Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by nybble41 »

rexreed wrote: post #411
Calamitous wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For Google docs I switched to using a Synology server. Very nearly as good (better, in some ways) and I don’t have to worry about what Google is up to. The up-front cost and setup time is a stiff investment, but I’m much easier in mind now. The other side of the coin is my wife’s gmail, which is going to be deleted come May. So... we gotta figure that out.

What sort of collaborative editing does Synology allow? Is there a Nextcloud / Owncloud alternative to Docs / Sheets for collaborative editing?

> Is there a Nextcloud / Owncloud alternative to Docs / Sheets for collaborative editing?

Yes, NextCloud and Owncloud both integrate with OnlyOffice Community Edition[0][1] which supports collaborative editing of text documents, spreadsheets, and presentations.

[0] https://www.onlyoffice.com/office-for-nextcloud.aspx

[1] https://www.onlyoffice.com/office-for-owncloud.aspx

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by dymk »

jgod wrote: post #398
commandlinefan wrote: post #357

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> Google should not have the power I can't help but notice the "they're a private company, so they can do whatever they want" folks that pop up whenever somebody's account gets banned for political views are strangely silent right now...

They were cheering it on a week or two ago when it was against Russians. My favorite was when they were licking their lips and reaching ecstasy over Parler getting deplatformed but then throwing a tantrum like a week later when Terraria dev got banned by Google. Terraria guy and this guy simply need to build their own Google, Gmail, Play Store, and Android, easy! ;)

> They were cheering it on a week or two ago when it was against Russians.

Tired of seeing people equate war crimes to Google screwing over some company.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by karteum »

throwuxiytayq wrote: post #380
koonsolo wrote: post #355

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So how do you know those services don't pull the same stunt? I use various google services, and do a monthly backup of everything. I guess that's a sane thing to do with any service, even self hosted ones.

Depends on the service. For example, if proton bans me I can move my email to a different provider because I own my domain. In case of Obsidian, it's an offline app that uses Markdown, so I can easily migrate to a different note-taking software for any reason. Your backup note is on point; I highly recommend everyone to do a Google Takeout every few months (or at least years!!). If you've never done one, like most Go…

Notice that Google Takeout is broken with regards to non-UTF8 email encodings (for some of you who archive old emails). I noticed it when coding a small tool https://github.com/karteum/gmvaultdb to (among other things) import the mbox from Takeout into an sqlite DB : Google performs some encoding conversions that permanently break all non-ascii characters in non-UTF8 emails (they are all replaced by 0xEFBFBD). In order to archive old emails, I had to use mbsync with IMAP (gmvault does not work anymore with Python 3, and I didn't try yet https://github.com/GAM-team/got-your-back ).

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by dymk »

q-big wrote: post #213
qalmakka wrote: post #22

I will say this once again: App Stores are too important in the current world to be left to the mercy of some big Internet company. I agree they should get a cut due to them being both the creators and maintainers of their platforms, but their ability to regulate what's in them should be left to a third party or government agency, just like trade is not left to its own devices and has regulators. Apple and Google are…

As long as * developers continue to develop apps for the respective app store (they could often create a web app, but they don't) * there is no outcry among users for competition (instead of monopoly) in the provides app store(s) nothing will change.

None of the apps created by the developer being discussed could have been created as a webapp.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by dymk »

fsflover wrote: post #352
ultim8k wrote: post #271

We gave these mofos an ecosytem because they were hiding behind the label of "free and open source software". Now they can screw anyone and not even answer to emails. They are nothing but crooks. All software giants hold too much power in their hands and nobody can touch them. What can you do? They have at least 50% of the market.

> What can you do? https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 and https://pine64.org/pinephone .

I'd rather just carry around a laptop than use those phones

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Post by pyrale »

koonsolo wrote: post #355
throwuxiytayq wrote: post #234

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After reading so many posts like this, I decided to bite the bullet and start moving off-Google. Funny thing is, ProtonMail and Obsidian are much better than Gmail and Keep anyway. I'm still forced to use Google stuff here and there but I'm no longer dependant on them, and coincidentally I've been sleeping much better recently.

So how do you know those services don't pull the same stunt? I use various google services, and do a monthly backup of everything. I guess that's a sane thing to do with any service, even self hosted ones.

Proton, or fastmail, or any number of other mail providers for that matter, don't control half of the internet. They don't associate personal accounts with professional accounts, and they can't block necessary services at a whim.

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Post by CPLX »

ikiris wrote: post #403
CPLX wrote: post #324

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> Google is much more profitable than your bank, and this is why. That's not correct. Google is more profitable because it is a monopoly and routinely engages in illegal anti-competitive behavior. It's precisely because this is the case that it's able to have nonexistent customer service and stay in business.

Ahh yes, Google the bastion of unethical business practices in comparison to.... checks notes banks....

In both cases the organizations would eventually descend into using the skin of newborn infants for making snack food if they thought it would make them an extra dollar.

Which is why both need aggressive regulation.

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