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Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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'At the extreme end, you’ve got things like the Manchester bombing, where access to a phone would be a useful thing.' If this is your normal way of thinking the terrorists have beaten you already.

emphasis mine: >> At the extreme end... > If this is your normal way of thinking...

OK, you got me. I think you get the gist though?

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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When it’s a venue you don’t know too well and there are 8 bars on each floor, that completely breaks down. Sticking together doesn’t always work, especially when queues are split between men and women for pat downs (as is usually the case in the type of venue that would force you to put your phone in a locked pouch). Of course we got by OK before mobile phones, but to suggest we give up the considerable benefits beca…

Let's think of a million different hypothetical situations in which not having a phone is bad. Result: you sound helpless.

It does make me wonder how they cope when they travel overseas. Do they still use their phones as much there? Do they just accept the large bill?

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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> Or how about this? > Or how about this? > Don't act like cellphones have no practical use sigh Humans have survived for hundreds of thousands of years without cellphones. For any new tech, you can continually imagine scenarios where survival "absolutely depends on" having this tech. How about this? You're sitting in your ISS sleep capsule and suddenly the station starts to depressurize. You hop into your reentry-sa…

sigh , you are not the Human race. Yes, Humans as a race have survived without cellphones, but that doesn't mean for an instance that the same applies to individuals. You can't simply brush aside the parent's comments because you don't agree with them. A potential rape situation, or a lost and frightened child are very valid, and very real examples of how having a phone could help. > Cellphones have made people into…

The last thing you want to do, when treathened in a crowded place, is to try to text someone. You either fight back or ask loudly for help.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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How worse and for what reasons? I don't understand how phones mitigate bomb attacks

They allow children to get hold of their parents, order transport home, etc. If they've run away from the venue without first unlocking their phone, they end up wandering around outside, at night, alone after a significant event such as this.

When I was a child, I managed to go events largely unsupervised and without a phone. I would already be told what to do in the event of getting separated in an emergency, such as having pre-arranged rendezvous points unique to my group.

> If they've run away from the venue without first unlocking their phone, they end up wandering around outside, at night, alone after a significant event such as this.

Only if their responsible adults don't take reasonable precautions. What happens when a child loses a phone or has one stolen? They should have a plan before going, whether phones are restricted or not.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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> not everybody does that. Not every kid would stand for it, either. I see we're dealing with a tough kid here

Anything you care to actually address? Lots a clicks, the only words are unintentionally ironic. How come? I mean, at least it's picture perfect, down to how you're not dealing with what I said, and comfort yourself about it. The less of you get that the more there is for me. Jealous because you didn't turn around sophistry on adults even as a little one? Not a very intelligent and lively childhood followed by an adu…

Please stop with the overly dramatic, wordy writing - you've taken an extremely interesting conversation and turned it into a cesspool.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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i think the whole point is not being able to check your phone adds to the human experience

I think the counterpoint is that for some people, the more human experience is not a selling point, and actually a fairly large negative. Beyond the points laid out before, I have multiple children and multiple pets, and I'm the some person responsible for the technology stack at my small company which (means I'm on call for somewhat infrequent but not unheard of issues). Not being allowed my phone might just mean "e…

The most annoying thing with phones is that they distract other people. You might be kind enough to not use your phone during a collective event, but other people are not. Frankly I don't care about it in a concert as you go there for the music most of the time, but I've seen people have use phones in every single movie I saw at a cinema and at every single theatre play I've been to, even in post-modern shows in tiny venues with much less than 50 seats. There are lots of idiots that can't look at something interesting without capturing it in photo and video, distracting everybody including the performers, who may indeed not want the performance recorded.

A comment higher up says treat people like adults. Adults are not adult adults. They are more like monkeys that compulsively do things and then maybe, only maybe think if what they did was appropriate or not.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

I agree, the safety aspects of this are shocking and the 'be free of phones' puritanism is a bit dull. A _very_ strict code of conduct for attendees is something that can (and does) work. Jazz pianist, Keith Jarrett has been known to stop his 4-hour long improvisation sessions in some of the world's most prestigous venues mid-flow to dress down an attendee trying to film him. People don't make that mistake twice. htt…

Why do the musician has to do vigilante work interrupting what everybody came there for? Tell off idiots in the audience instead of playing his gig?

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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If you live inside a Hollywood action movie, yes.

"hey the dangerous stalker you have had since 5 years found out you are going to this concert." Does it still sound like hollywood?

Is the audience one person?

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Many of us old enough remember that cameras were often banned from venues, even non professional ones. It wasn't until camera enabled phones became popular that this rule was dropped. I have no idea why someone would want to watch a performance from behind a screen.

Why do people drop buttloads of money getting to the Grand Canyon and then spend their time behind a viewfinder taking landscape pictures that are infinitely worse than you'll find online or purchased from pros, ensuring they spend less (and sometimes no), time enjoying the scenery and environment?

The Grand Canyon is there all the time, won't go home after 2 am, and won't be distracted by photographers.
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