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Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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post #189

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I think the viscerality of this response is fascinating. Putting your phone in a case is a "prison", and you must check it every time you go to the toilet, and you're concerned about a terrorist attack -- enough to want your phone, but not enough to stay home, as if your apps could somehow save you. > Treat people like adults. If they break the rules, ask them to leave. Isn't that what we've been trying for the past…

Taking your phone out at a concern is not misbehaving. It's fine and accepted. What OP is proposing is to make phones prohibited at a concert. Then it will be misbehaving, and you can eject people who are breaking the rule. I think this would be a fine idea.

> Taking your phone out at a concern is not misbehaving. It's fine and accepted.

No. No it isn't. It's selfish and shows an egregious lack of courtesy to other attendees/the performer. The fact that most people do it just reveals most people are arseholes, not that it's 'fine and accepted'.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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post #335

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If you live inside a Hollywood action movie, yes.

"hey the dangerous stalker you have had since 5 years found out you are going to this concert." Does it still sound like hollywood?

Yes it does.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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post #374
post #331

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Because it is pathetic. You're available for work while at a Chris Rock show?

...pathetic, thanks. I work freelance film production. I get calls for work at random hours and if I don't respond quickly that offer can expire. I also work on high-pressure, quick turnaround jobs a lot, and part of the deal as a freelancer is that I'm always available. As a result, I keep my phone with me. I'm sorry that my earning a living is pathetic to you.

Apology accepted.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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post #372
post #340

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Yondr is a system which locks your phone in a pouch which you put in your pocket. It is not taken away from you.

You are still prevented access from it.

Yes, that is the purpose of the system.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the viscerality of this response is fascinating. Putting your phone in a case is a "prison", and you must check it every time you go to the toilet, and you're concerned about a terrorist attack -- enough to want your phone, but not enough to stay home, as if your apps could somehow save you. > Treat people like adults. If they break the rules, ask them to leave. Isn't that what we've been trying for the past…

There are a couple of cool apps on phones called "Telephone" and "Messages" and you can call or text people in an emergency situation. I'm pretty sure those are the apps one would use during a terrorist attack. But I've never been involved in one, so I could be wrong.

When a whole concert tries to call at the same time it's usually impossible to call because of saturated lines (t least in eu)

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the viscerality of this response is fascinating. Putting your phone in a case is a "prison", and you must check it every time you go to the toilet, and you're concerned about a terrorist attack -- enough to want your phone, but not enough to stay home, as if your apps could somehow save you. > Treat people like adults. If they break the rules, ask them to leave. Isn't that what we've been trying for the past…

Don't be ridiculous. Fear of terrorism is not the only factor. Cellphones are one of the past century's greatest contributions to public safety. If you want to be antagonistic about the threat of a bombing, how about a more commonplace example: you're a very drunk young girl who's been separated from her friends at the concert and a pushy, aggressive guy you don't know is trying to get you into his car to go home wit…

> Or how about this? > Or how about this? > Don't act like cellphones have no practical use

sigh Humans have survived for hundreds of thousands of years without cellphones. For any new tech, you can continually imagine scenarios where survival "absolutely depends on" having this tech.

How about this? You're sitting in your ISS sleep capsule and suddenly the station starts to depressurize. You hop into your reentry-safe spacesuit and exit the station, set the suit to auto-reentry and then aero-brake from Mach 18 to 0 and touch down safely in your backyard with your parachute. See? A reentry safe single-person spacesuit is absolute essential to survival.

Your example is that you pass out at a concert with literally thousands of people around and no one helps you. Or you are drunk and a guy is hitting on you. Or your kid is missing.

And you call the person you are responding to ridiculous.

Cellphones have made people into helpless, scared sheep.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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My goodness, all those people who went to concerts before cell phones must have been so hardcore, taking risks like that. My guess is that if you put your phone away you're less likely to hurt from, you know, other people doing the stupid stuff they do at concerts. I understand that people want video, so they can post it, and get their dopa-soc on Facebook, or wherever, but seriously, musical artists (especially the…

Look at the Manchester Arena bombing last year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Arena_bombing Thousands of unaccompanied teenagers subjected to a bomb attack. Without access to their phones, this could've been so much worse.

How worse and for what reasons? I don't understand how phones mitigate bomb attacks

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

'At the extreme end, you’ve got things like the Manchester bombing, where access to a phone would be a useful thing.' If this is your normal way of thinking the terrorists have beaten you already.

emphasis mine:

>> At the extreme end...

> If this is your normal way of thinking...

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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post #394

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Uhm, yes you are, and pretty clearly at that.

No, not really. If someone goes out for drinks, then dinner, then a show and the night is going really well maybe the parents want to call and check in. They want to see how the nights going for the babysitter and kid. Are the kids asleep? Is the babysitter content to make some more money for a few extra hours? I think that's all entirely reasonable. It really has little to do with the matter at hand but having to wa…

But, how many times will you have to call ?

Surely not every time you go to the loo, if it's just the once it's hardly much inconvenience.

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