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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by tinodb »

AndroTux wrote: post #383
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #63

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OVH? Upcloud? Scaleway? (searching more I found Koyeb, bunny cdn offers deno similar to cloudflare workers)

None of these remotely come close to their US counterparts. Not by a long shot.

Because they don’t offer every service AWS offers? They offer plenty of hosted databases, queues and what not that it shouldn’t be too hard to move things over. Especially not if you are on Kubernetes. Not if you are all in on lambdas of course but that is a problem in and of itself.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by tinodb »

Phlogi wrote: post #199
tormeh wrote: post #180

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Absolutely not. There's a gazillion cloud providers out there with hosted postgres+kafka+redis and the other big open source softwares. Hetzner is just not one of them.

Please list them, especially the ones with managed services..

Scaleway as well

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Post by nephihaha »

carlosjobim wrote: post #391
mopsi wrote: post #366

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> There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Such as? I honestly can't think of anything. > It is unacceptable to ban homeschooling. Some children need to be homeschooled, because of disabilities, or even high intelligence. European education laws prioritize the child's right to education and social development over parental autonomy as an absolute. Mandatory schooling laws have been adopted t…

Not all European countries have banned home schooling. Not even all members of the EU. As for neglect and abuse of children, the public schools is where you will most readily find it. Including bullying until children commit suicide. And school shootings. Which is a lesser risk at home. No matter which continent.

No one said all EU countries have banned homeschooling. That is just one issue.

Schools are a haven for bullying, both by students and teachers. I did have some good teachers but some of them were also the most cruel and abusive people I've ever met.

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Post by saubeidl »

MangoToupe wrote: post #479
saubeidl wrote: post #478

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That's what the possessive descriptor "European" means, yes. Which is why it's weird you're so against it. I'm not really sure what you're arguing at this point.

"European" is a geographic adjective. It does not apply to domination of other places. No amount of willpower will make the places that europe chooses to rape "european".

It's not purely geographic. It's possessive, it's cultural.

A Spanish dish is Spanish outside of Spain as well, as is a French song or a Danish person (the relevant one in this case!).

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Post by carlosjobim »

integralid wrote: post #462
carlosjobim wrote: post #346

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I don't give very much for statistics and opinion polls. People tend to give the answer they think they're "supposed to give" in those. I base my assessment on my experience from talking to people in real life. > Maybe you should get out of your right-wing bubble. Your comment is nasty, but I don't think you're this nasty in real life. Probably you're just blowing off some steam online.

I'm from the EU. I don't know a single person that is against EU. Everyone among my friends and colleagues, including me, is strongly pro-EU. At least I know that's a bubble, because I know anti-eu people exist in my country too. Get out of yours.

Likewise, I've never met a person who has said they are for the EU or even strongly pro-EU. So it must be a question of which of the EU member countries you are in or other kind of bubbles.

> Get out of yours.

I suggested in my original post that Germans seem to be pro-EU. And probably neighbouring countries too. Here in this thread also appeared a fanatically pro-EU Spaniard. In Nordic countries, I've never met a person who would admit they were pro-EU. Of course they must exist, since presumably half the people voted yes to join, a few decades ago.

In the end it seems to be no more complicated than people who benefit financially from EU redistribution of money are pro-EU and the people who have to pay the bill for it are against the EU.

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Post by neoromantique »

stinkbeetle wrote: post #388
neoromantique wrote: post #315

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We are discussing 2014. Russian armed forces were present there from the get-go, and hybrid approaches were there long before 2014 too.

Was that when Obama capitulated to Putin and permitted him to annex Crimea? Perhaps that was the "more flexibility" that he secretly promised Putin he would have after his election. I wonder what he got in return for it.

I don't disagree? Merkel and Obama both.

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Post by carlosjobim »

disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #447
carlosjobim wrote: post #348

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I have an idea of what I'm talking about. I say that the EU is not Europe. Nor is Europe the EU. People in these conversations need to understand the difference, because it is significant. Norway, Great Britain, Iceland and Switzerland aren't in the EU.

All of those bar the UK are in the EEA though.

Yes, but those are only trade and border agreements, and don't give the EU influence on internal political matters. Compare similar trade agreements between other nations, such as between the United States and their neighbours.

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Post by MangoToupe »

saubeidl wrote: post #485
MangoToupe wrote: post #479

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"European" is a geographic adjective. It does not apply to domination of other places. No amount of willpower will make the places that europe chooses to rape "european".

It's not purely geographic. It's possessive, it's cultural. A Spanish dish is Spanish outside of Spain as well, as is a French song or a Danish person (the relevant one in this case!).

> It's possessive, it's cultural.

So you admit that the relationship between denmark and greenland is one of violence, not affection?

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Post by tinodb »

everfrustrated wrote: post #385
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #55

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Lmao but in all honesty, there are a lot of european cloud providers that I know and they are even cheaper than american counterparts like aws, azure, gcp. Personally I like european cloud too but I dont have so much as an preference and it depends but the current environment of america does seem a little hostile but not the fault of datacenters in america but I hope that hostility slows down

Sadly there are still no European cloud providers. There are European hosting and VPS companies with aspirations but that's not the same.

Scaleway and OVH offer all the basics and more (kubernetes, networking, hosted dbs, queues, storage, GPUs etc). It’s google workspace/microsoft 365 that has no equivalent.
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