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Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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> a giant dish So why don't we just use a small dish?

Because it wouldn't be as directional as a big dish. The relative size of the dish vs wavelength plays a factor here. If you make a dish thats the size of the wavelength it wouldn't even work as a dish, it would receive the signal from all angles. This is also why high gain antennas for higher frequencies can be much smaller than for e.g long waves.

It works two ways: one is that you can go lower in frequency (e.g. bigger wavelength) if your dish is bigger, the other is that you just capture more of the signal. If you take light as a metaphor, a bigger lens will just provide more 'signal' at the focal point.

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And navigating a software menu (which changes at random times when it updates itself) just to open the fucking glove compartment. What was wrong with a physical latch?

It allows you to lock it with a pin. I don't want to carry keys.

Why not make it a lock that doesn't require electricity? For example: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/combination-number-lock-meta...

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Wonderful. I recently rented a model 3 and found it incredibly frustrating that it required multiple touches to adjust settings that would be a single button press on a more traditional car. Don’t even get me started on the windshield wipers - a total nightmare in winter storms and located on the left stalk? These are safety concerns. As long as humans are operating these dangerous vehicles, I vote for fewer driver d…

I almost didn't buy a Tesla because of my concerns over the lack of controls, but turns out that while driving, it's rarely if ever necessary to touch the screen, because there's voice commands for everything (navigate to X, climate control off, etc). Plus often you don't need to do anything at all: the lights switch on automatically if it's dark, the windshield wipers activate automatically if there's moisture, etc.…

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Why would an F150 be relevant? The highways are dominated by much larger tractor trailers.

You can't always drive a heavy duty truck like that in the city. You have to take certain routes a lot of the time. Also F150s and similar are somewhat commonly used as commuter vehicles.

In most of the US you can. It would be very difficult to drive in the US in a way that avoids those trucks without restricting yourself to some tiny core.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Finally, a dose of sanity. I was thinking everybody in auto industry went crazy with those touch screen control. I would never buy a car without physical controls, at least as long as I am supposed to drive it, it is refreshing to see somebody understands it.

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The other day, I was taking a call on my iPhone, over the earpiece, in my office suite's lobby. The connection was rock solid, and then out of nowhere the audio just disappeared, without warning … but the call didn't drop. A few seconds later it returned. The person on the other end said they heard what sounded like a child for a second. I was perplexed. Fast forward a week, and this happens again. I look at the call…

I really want an option like this Enable [ X ] Audio [ ] Phone Calls Because I never, not one single time, wanted a phone call to blast over my car audio. Not once. I can't be the only one that has wanted the car to be a speakerphone exactly 0 times. Heck maybe someone is the opposite. They love terrestrial radio or their CD collection and also the speakerphone feature. Give people options.

I actually take calls over car audio frequently. But only when I am inside the car, obviously. When car's Bluetooth tries to take over from the garage while I'm inside the house, that's hugely annoying.

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The killer invention would be a device that is as easy to replace/maintain/configure/adapt as the glass/ipad interface, but as easy to do blindly as an 80's knobs-and-buttons interface. I'm sure automakers have plowed money into all kinds of cool haptic inventions, and there are lots of past examples of UX innovation (BMW control wheel, modern HUDs). I hope we'll figure this one out eventually, because the Tesla solu…

You really think screens and integrated electronics are easier to maintain and cheaper to replace than plastic buttons and copper wire?

Yes, absolutely and of course. It’s not even close. It’s basically 1 cable to install.

And you can use the same hardware for all models and all trims.

By “maintain” I mean “adapt to new models and features”. But it’s likely often cheaper to repair as well since labor is the majority of the cost.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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> Nobody ever provides any evidence that touchscreen based car interfaces are less safe. That's a bit like the old joke that the efficacy of parachutes at preventing free-fall deaths has never been proven scientifically. (Well, until this 2003 study[1]) Some chains of causality are so obvious that we don't need to prove them scientifically: Many people find touchscreens hard to use without taking their eyes off the r…

“We don’t need to prove it because I believe it” isn’t a compelling point. There’s many ways the answer could be counterintuitive. For example, perhaps people know they have to take their eyes off the road so they operate those controls during safer conditions. But most importantly, I don’t even think it’s true that there are cars where key controls are only on difficult to access touch screen! Hence my whole point a…

“It’s an issue because I said so even though I haven’t contemplated a null hypothesis either”

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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I had the exact same feel when test driving it. It has problems cornering and driving in winter conditions.

Hmm. I've driven on snowy roads and found it to be better at handling than any other car I've driven, even counting cars that had dedicated snow tires (whereas the Ioniq only had all-season tires). It also has a "snow mode" to help with particularly bad roads. I found at least one review that puts its snow handling down as a "pro", so it's not just me. [1] I did get the Limited AWD with the 20" wheels. Not sure if th…

I suppose the tires do matter a lot. I’ve driven an AWD (not sure whether it was a limited edition). The grip was indeed better in AWD mode, at the loss of range but the tossing around is still there. Maybe that would have been fixed completely by Sport seats.

Still, I’ve never had a car lose grip like the Ioniq 5. For the FWD cars that is expected, but also the RWD I have is easier to handle.

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