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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Because from a economical business point: * You're getting old and your not spending as much money. * Getting 5$ from 100.000.000 people is better than getting 50$ 1.000.000 people. Especially if you can do it at lower costs. * Getting in new audiences to keep the franchise alive and healthy * And last but not least the average consumer is not interested in it being "true" to some kind of book or whatever. It has to…

1. Older audiences have more money and spend more of it. 2. There’s only 68 million Gen Z compared to 72 million Millenials. 3. You keep a franchise alive and healthy by protecting the core IP and making the fans happy not by alienating them and making terrible renditions of the story. If you do that then all you have left is a name that is increasingly associated with bad writing and acting and eventually it becomes…

> Older audiences have more money and spend more of it.

And one way to make them spend that money is to target their kids, which is much more easier to do so ...

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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A fairy that makes puppets alive. OK! A black woman in Italy: Impossible! Unbelievable!

> A black woman in Italy: Impossible! Unbelievable! You're being overly dramatic. But if you want stories with black women in them, why are you adapting a book where there is none? I think that's because Pinocchio is a very good story and they know it, people.know it, and also is in the public domain. Disney "modernizing" Italian literature for free to feed their money making machine? OK! Disney adapting an African s…

Diverse casting is in fact the laziest form of racial inclusivity possible. PLEASE make movies and series stemming from African tradition and mythology, and rightfully cast black people for that. The problem with forced diverse casting is that I can't bring myself to imagine how and why dwarves/elves/etc.. can be both black and white, since they all come from the same land in the LoTR lore. At least pick a lotr race - skin color pair and only cast people of that skin color for a determined race, I'd be ok with that. It just messes the lore for me, nothing more nothing less.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I went over 2 pages of 1star reviews in rottentomatos and not one mentioned the woke stuff. Not sure where this notion that it’s been brigaded by the anti-woke crowd comes from. Most bad reviews mentioned bland characters, mediocre acting, bad dialogue/writing etc.

All well deserved imho. It is a wax museum of a show.

I swear a lot of Amazon stuff just looks so bland it might as well be AI-generated. "It is a wax museum of a show" is the best wording for that!

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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How is RT better? 100% of RT scores are either 1 or 10.

That's not how it works. Yes, RT scores are binary, but that's not the same as saying that "rotten" means 1/10 and "fresh" means 10/10.

Yeah, that’s not the same. That sounds worse to me, so the question stands, how is it better?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Is that really true? If I saw any fantasy or sci-fi series that didn't derive from a book or comic series I'd take off work to binge it. I'm so tired of regurgitation. A known writer's name attached would me me run rather than walk to the remote.

It's really true. How often do you hear about Upload, an ongoing non-adaptation scifi series run by the guy who produced The Office and Parks and Rec? Or The Orville, a non-adaptation space exploration show from the Family Guy guy?

Upload is brilliant! I talk about it at work, but I confess no one has ever spoken to me about it. You may have a point. Is it a sunk cost thing, where having spent the money on IP they market it heavier? The Norwegian thor on netflix was really good too. But its low buget so I figured they just don't push it as hard? Why do people really care that much about name recognition?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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> The fairy is pale white not because she is white, but because she's pure. Curious equivocation there.

Unfortunately that's really how Tolkien's mythology tends to work. White skin is associated with purity, darker skin with corruption and evil (or at least, between the two, "civilized" and "uncivilized".) It's a trope that's carried on into sci-fi (particularly Star Trek, where the more animalistic or violent races also tend to be darker - see the Klingons who get portrayed as darker-skinned and more aggressive with…

This is correct, but what to do about it?

Just keep rolling with basically racist concepts because we like the other aspects of the mythology? Or explicitly overturn the racist parts, and keep the rest?

I like the second one, but apparently many other commenters are perfectly comfortable with "white=good".

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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People are grumpy because Amazon gutted LotR universe, made it an empty vessel for their political ideology and now refuse to deal with well-earned criticism in an honest fashion.

It's so sweet you think a corporation like Amazon has a political ideology other than making as much money as ever possible.

Seriously, half this post’s comments are just `you made it political.jpg`

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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>the show is not faithful to the source material. I think it actually is pretty faithful to it. There is not a lot of sources for the 2nd age from Tolkien and they did a great job with what was there. Most of the bad reviews are just trolls screeching about some political agenda that is completely ubrelated to the show.

not sure if accurate because i know nothong beyond basic LOTR story but saw something that said if they were faithful to the source material nothing of interest would have happened until the middle of the 5th season

No, they really skipped over a ton of the first age. With the second age, I think it'll come down to pacing. There are a number of notable events that quite literally reshape the world from the end of the first age to the beginning of the 3rd.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Interesting to contrast the IMDB rating with Rotten Tomatoes, not owned by Amazon, which currently has an audience rating of 38%. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_... In my opinion, Steam does the best job of handling this tricky problem by leaving all reviews up and transparently letting the user pick whether or not to include periods of "unusual activity".

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Maybe, but it would be disingenuous to pretend that they are removing the negative reviews for that reason.
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