My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies proving himself to be worthy of honor and love and then going to what he thought was certain death to give Frodo a chance to destroy the ring. The gender or race of the characters in TRoP is not the point. It’s that they’re all unlikable because they don’t love and respect others.
IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
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I am going to rock the boat a little. I am admittedly not a big Tolkien fan ( I think tried reading one book once and, to me, it was worse experience than Ulysses ). I can easily plead ignorance here. Are there any black guys mentioned in those books? If not, not sticking to script is a valid complaint ( see how annoyed people were with Game of Thrones departure -- it is not a question of race; it is a question of mo…
The tricky part is that even if the source material has no non-white people in it, the real world does and representation matters. If you cast diverse actors, you are less precise, but are making the world a (slightly) better place for underrepresented and disadvantaged people. If you don't, you are more precise and are making the world a (slightly) worse place for underrepresented and disadvantaged people. What of t…
Don't turn literature into politics, is much more important.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
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It seems kind of weird to characterize Tolkien fans being interested in a new, high-profile Lord of the Rings show as "brigading". Of course the people with the biggest emotional connection and interest in a franchise will be the ones most active in reviewing, creating YouTube videos, and discussing it online. I think the better question is why so many established sci-fi and franchises seem to be alienating their cor…
Because from a economical business point:
* You're getting old and your not spending as much money. * Getting 5$ from 100.000.000 people is better than getting 50$ 1.000.000 people. Especially if you can do it at lower costs. * Getting in new audiences to keep the franchise alive and healthy * And last but not least the average consumer is not interested in it being "true" to some kind of book or whatever. It has to make sense, but not in a true to the original author kind of way.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
#64Interesting to contrast the IMDB rating with Rotten Tomatoes, not owned by Amazon, which currently has an audience rating of 38%. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_... In my opinion, Steam does the best job of handling this tricky problem by leaving all reviews up and transparently letting the user pick whether or not to include periods of "unusual activity".
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>the show is not faithful to the source material.
I think it actually is pretty faithful to it. There is not a lot of sources for the 2nd age from Tolkien and they did a great job with what was there.
Most of the bad reviews are just trolls screeching about some political agenda that is completely ubrelated to the show.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
#65I don't blame review sites for deleting "outrage reviews". I really don't think they say anything about the quality of the thing, just that there is some current rage going on. These are usually deleted on Steam too, in fact I think they have some kind of algorithm to detect when it is happening. I don't think such reviews should really be counted in the same category as normal reviews since they are just based on outrage rather than the actual content
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
#66Interesting to contrast the IMDB rating with Rotten Tomatoes, not owned by Amazon, which currently has an audience rating of 38%. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_... In my opinion, Steam does the best job of handling this tricky problem by leaving all reviews up and transparently letting the user pick whether or not to include periods of "unusual activity".
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It seems kind of weird to characterize Tolkien fans being interested in a new, high-profile Lord of the Rings show as "brigading". Of course the people with the biggest emotional connection and interest in a franchise will be the ones most active in reviewing, creating YouTube videos, and discussing it online. I think the better question is why so many established sci-fi and franchises seem to be alienating their cor…
This is a very astute comment. We are living in some kind of Twilight Zone environment right now. Corporations purchase IP for decades-long, popular franchises, then deliberately alienate their core audience. Then they act as if all these people they just deliberately pissed off aren't real people. Words like "brigading" are a clever way to dehumanize your critics.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
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It seems kind of weird to characterize Tolkien fans being interested in a new, high-profile Lord of the Rings show as "brigading". Of course the people with the biggest emotional connection and interest in a franchise will be the ones most active in reviewing, creating YouTube videos, and discussing it online. I think the better question is why so many established sci-fi and franchises seem to be alienating their cor…
Because from a economical business point: * You're getting old and your not spending as much money. * Getting 5$ from 100.000.000 people is better than getting 50$ 1.000.000 people. Especially if you can do it at lower costs. * Getting in new audiences to keep the franchise alive and healthy * And last but not least the average consumer is not interested in it being "true" to some kind of book or whatever. It has to…
Pareto tells us that 0.1% of people account for 38% of the money.
Intentionally aggravating your most passionate fans is a moronic business plan — like a mobile game that intentionally pisses off the “whales” to pursue casuals.
Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power
#69the show deserves 3/4 at best, I haven't seen anything so expensive this bad, it's really weird that this much money can't buy quality in any of the aspects of the show
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It seems kind of weird to characterize Tolkien fans being interested in a new, high-profile Lord of the Rings show as "brigading". Of course the people with the biggest emotional connection and interest in a franchise will be the ones most active in reviewing, creating YouTube videos, and discussing it online. I think the better question is why so many established sci-fi and franchises seem to be alienating their cor…
Tolkien’s legendarium isn’t a “franchise”, brigading is the work of trolls not fans, and the degree to which it panders to an existing audience is the most tawdry, and least interesting, measure of any creative work.