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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by lucasayb97 »

RobotToaster wrote: post #335
rgblambda wrote: post #312

Putting aside that the source for this is a Reddit post linking to screenshots of text, as opposed to a news site where a journalist would have to stake their reputation on the story being true. Anyone can report anyone else to "the authorities" for anything. It doesn't mean the unnamed authorities act on it. It's also quite strange that Yoti (if this isn't just a hoax) don't specify which policing unit is recieving…

> as opposed to a news site where a journalist would have to stake their reputation on the story being true. Have you seen the reputations of most "journalists" these days? Several UK newspapers frequently repost stories from forums like reddit and mumsnet.

Right, but that doesn’t automatically mean that Redditors have better reputations. I use Reddit daily, but if I see any news that might sound absurd, I will definitely take a look on other news sites to see if the information is real. Journalists, impartial or not, may at least have better credibility in these news sites.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

arprocter wrote: post #459
VladVladikoff wrote: post #264

The OP of this reddit post has a lot of other posts (now hidden) about age verification, bypassing it, and privacy. They even got called out about this in the reddit thread and responded by hiding their profile, but you can see it on google still if you google for “reddit PaiDuck” Not saying what this company did is right, but it feels like this guy has been testing how far he can push these various age verification…

Allowing people to hide their history was an awful decision imo https://arctic-shift.photon-reddit.com/search

People who were terrible with arguing with others always dig up some dirt on the other party and went to the mod team crying....

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by lwhi »

skippyboxedhero wrote: post #460
trumpdong wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was the policy?

https://www.hampshire.police.uk/police-forces/hampshire-cons... - police forces across the UK have similar policies based upon this document from the NPCC - https://www.npcc.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/media/downloads/our... . There are a number of other similar documents produced by quangos that specialize specifically in impacting policy at police forces in their treatment of ethnic minorities. After the event, this po…

A lot of words, but not much substance.

You haven't linked to the specific policy that led to this awful event occurring.

Which specific policy wording enabled this to happen?

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

eesmith wrote: post #466
trumpdong wrote: post #444

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The title might be XYZ Hackathon but the word Hackathon isn't really meaningful outside of that scene, so if asked what it is, you'd say a computer programming conference or something like that. When I tell people about Revision, I don't say "demoparty", I say "computer art festival", because that's not subculture jargon.

And if the border guard asks for the name of the computer art festival, to check if it exists?

it's called Revision and the website is https://revision-party.net

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by ssl-3 »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #292
ssl-3 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. It's important to remain pure. I usually just use the Book of Mormon and that typically helps me get it done well-enough. But when that doesn't work, I allow myself some different material. The New Haven Code of 1656 is my reserve favorite and I have a laminated copy of the Comstock Act of 1873 on-hand for unusually-tricky edge cases.

Lamination guarantees re-usability.

I cannot stress highly enough the importance of maintaining reliable backups.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

trumpdong wrote: post #454
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only ever used MEGA a handful of times, and it was only for Android ROM downloads. The police commentary about MEGA was notable to me precisely because of how infrequently I'd used it despite their mention of it. They kinda tipped their hand with that. If they hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have known it was a red flag at all. There's also a large chasm separating copyright infringing material and CSAM, and puttin…

CSAM and pirated material are both illegal file sharing, exactly the same from a technical perspective like how file sharing software works. Of course Mega would like you to pay to use it for backups, but I don't think anyone actually does. Their E2EE is there for a reason - they don't want any information about what you're hosting.

Which is exactly the same as legal file sharing from a technical perspective.

Which is exactly the same as leading corporate secrets or international espionage or hosting a copy of The Satanic Verses, from a technical perspective.

It's also no different from hosting a blog or any other website from a technical perspective.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by somewhatgoated »

trumpdong wrote: post #385
somewhatgoated wrote: post #297

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Btw in Germany the courts ruled that From the river to the sea as parole itself is not unlawful. The arrested person got acquitted. Hamas and its symbols are illegal however.

Didn't they also arrest a guy for writing some random Arabic on a flag because Hamas also has a flag written in Arabic?

Idk did they? Who knows man a lot of stuff is said on the internet that might’ve or might’ve not happened

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by somewhatgoated »

trumpdong wrote: post #406
somewhatgoated wrote: post #272

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Idk I went to probably dozens of public protests here screaming no justice no peace, fuck the police and nothing ever happened to me, except a little tear-gas once in a while. I might be on some secret police lists not sure. Living in Germany so UK might be much worse for all I know , but I would be surprised if Germany is the shining paragon for democracy now.

Germany tends to allow protests they know will have no effect. Try a Palestine protest - those are more dangerous to the regime. Also take note of the ratio of cops to protestors.

I’ve been to plenty of Palestine protests, no idea what regime you are alluding to.

Sure we have a police state problem and I won’t pretend everything is peachy - but it’s far from as extreme as some comments here make it out to be

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by cassianoleal »

lukan wrote: post #442
cassianoleal wrote: post #409

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So you think it would be better if the EU started a war with a member state that failed to uphold the union's laws?

Why would he or she think that? Your questions are close to strawman arguments in my perception.

Let's follow the timeline, shall we? It shouldn't be difficult as it's a pretty linear tree in the comments.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423657

I mentioned that Europe is a lot more than the EU, and even within the EU member countries diverge.

2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423908

trumpdong then makes a comment that I interpret as saying the EU doesn't have a lot of power over member states, and saying that the worst which could happen to one of them is to be kicked out of the EU.

3. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48424244

Slightly shocked by the idea that the EU should be doing something worse than expelling a member for not following the Union's rules, I use a _reductio ad absurdum_ and ask if they thought the EU should be harder and actually perform an armed invasion of a member state that didn't follow them.

4. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425100

To my shock, trumpdong literally says "yes".

5. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425487

I, due to the shock described above, decide to question again in more words if that's actually what they mean.

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Hopefully that responds your question. I see no straw man, but if you still do, please present it.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by userbinator »

raincole wrote: post #213
userbinator wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two words: Henry Nowak.

Thank you for making me look it up. I haven't been following news for a while and didn't recognize this name. Didn't know the situation is that bad.

Me neither, but I just heard about him a few days ago and saw the evidence.
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