OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 10:37 PM UTC

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GPT4s killer revenue stream isn't selling ads on keyword searches. It's selling access to a general compute engine that can take text and do useful things with it. The API is dead simple to use, and all you have to do is just change a line of text to "upgrade" to the newest models over time. (By the way, the upgrade from ChatGPT -> GPT4 is huge). Google should be deathly afraid of this. Not because Microsoft is going…

The internet you’re describing sounds like hell on earth. I don’t want to talk to an llm.

Post by hcrisp » Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 10:37 PM UTC

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Is Sundar a bad CEO or merely a mediocre one though? Who would replace him that could get the job done where Sundar failed? I think it's easier said than done to stay the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade even if your leadership is above-average. Still Sundar is mediocre at best, and I certainly think Google's shareholders should be looking for a new person to run the place. It's not just AI, Google's entire…

jeff dean, would have my vote? https://research.google/people/jeff/

Post by OJFord » Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 10:38 PM UTC

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It seems to be more complacency on the part of the Google. They became larger and larger without really delivering anything new. When was the last time they launched a major new product that truly had a lasting impact on the level of Search, Maps, Gmail, Android? It has been a while. Too many of their resources seem to be focused inwards on hypothetical questions like AI ethics that keep them from actually building t…

I remember when Stadia was going to light the gaming world on fire the way Gmail did for email.. The product its self was good and they were maybe the only company in the world besides Microsoft with the resources to deliver it, but they bungled the launch and then let it rot for 3 years. In my opinion that product is the perfect distillation of Google's problems.

Post by valdiorn » Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 10:39 PM UTC

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I think OpenAI just executed with perfection, also their focus on AI was a big competitive advantage vs Google who have 50 different things

Also not cancelling things left and right would probably be a better strategy for Google. People used to love them, but complete disregard for their users and impassionate product shutdowns have completely destroyed trust. I wouldn't ever consider building my workflow on anything Google, maybe with the exception of Gmail/Android and whatever they can their office suite now [0]. [0]: I've lost track of their rebrandin…

Post by akomtu » Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 10:40 PM UTC

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The rumour I keep hearing is that it's like the Hunger Games inside Google at the moment. Total chaos and infighting at all levels, investors are freaking out over AI and Bard's middling performance compared to OpenAI and blood is in the water. Sundar may be forced to resign and Larry/Sergei deployed to rescue the company.

Whenever there’s a big shift like this it’s always tempting to look at the new thing as say how great it is - and ChatGPT is awesome. But it’s also worth looking at how shit the old thing has become. Google.com now literally delivers you an entire page of ads before any real results. It’s blatant profit-squeezing instead of trying to serve their users. This is their reward.