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Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

neil.computer

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Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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I think it says a lot when people hate Spotify this much and then feel like they have to use it. There are comments here about buildling your an entire new interface to Spotify. At that point, shouldn't you just...not use Spotify? What would Spotify have to do to you to get you to not use it, sneak into your house at night and do something to the family pet?

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Thanks for highlighting this! I was getting the feeling that search has become increasingly crappier. Not just Spotify, but also in other places like Google, Facebook and DuckDuckGo. Search for anything and you'll get something "pausibly deniability" close to what you typed, but optimized for metrics that are way beyond the user's comprehension. I feel like singling out Facebook, the worst offender: Their search is o…

Hah, I searched “cam” in the windows search bar the other day looking to open the camera app, but windows decided I was actually looking for “Calculator” or a handful of other things that didn’t have a single “M” in it listed ahead of the actual camera app.

A related issue is when autocorrect “corrects” things that I’ve spelled correctly, which drives me absolutely nuts. The other day I was texting someone about music and I wrote “melodies” which was “corrected” to “Melodie’s”. In fact on iOS this is still happening as I write this!

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I use Winamp for my MP3 collection that I downloaded of my T1 line at the office. When I turn that mother up on and my CRT monitor starts smoking because of the Winamp addons that spikes all kinds of shit whenever the tune is changing, then I know I have found the right track. Then I get cracking on the floor. Break dancing and caps flying around. The neighbors come jumping in the door and starts clapping and the mus…

What skin and visualizer are you using?

Has to be dancing baby visualizer.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Spotify is horrendous. Their UI is subpar. Their mix of podcasts with songs is odd at best (seriously, I never listen to podcasts, why can't I switch it off completely?). Their shuffle is just not. Imagine listening to the same 20ish songs from a playlist of nearly 2k songs. How can you mess up shuffle that bad? It's also not easy to move away from it. It requires time and effort. Time that many don't have.

I recently switched to Tidal. Same price, better audio quality, better user interface. I try it out for a couple of months to see how it goes. By the way, I'm always tempted to go back to pirating, and use these services just to discover new music. Given the cost of storage today disks I can easily get 1Tb of FLAC music on my NAS, and discard any streaming service. So I can also get music in a quality that you can't…

Some good private trackers that have better recommendations than Spotify. Look around.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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>Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. Does anyone else get a dystopian vibe from this statement? I feel like the old guy in the SF movie pulling his hair and exclaiming, "But what have we lost?!" We used to have vinyl, tapes, finally CDs, and even the ability to rip our library to a computer, which we could carry with us. It was…

Enjoyment of music linked to a specific physical item seems incredibly shallow to me. If the music is worth listening to, the medium shouldn't matter at all.

Exactly! Also, if a song has parts you don’t like, simply cut those out! I don’t care what the artist intended - I only keep what’s worthy of my attention!

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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This is a big frustration of mine, too. The other is that Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. The good news is that Spotify's SDK and API are actually powerful enough that you can build up an entire alternative interface, which is actually what I recently started doing: https://i.imgur.com/ar7VrYy.png . It's still work in progr…

That's a pretty good UI.

I made a simple app to shuffle Spotify albums that you might like. Check it out at www.bandtr.com

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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I've never understood the Spotify love. I tried it long ago and didn't like it at all. Ended up on GPM until Google pushed me to YTM. Now on AM, and it works fine with how I listen to music. I wonder if it's just different ways that people listen to music that lead them to prefer one service over another?

> I've never understood the Spotify love. I started using it when it was launched or shortly after, before most of the alternatives (including Youtube Music) even existed. It was great ~10 years ago. I still use it because I'm invested into it: we have our premium family account, with all smart speakers configured to play songs using it, we have playlists, out of the music I like I know what's available and what's mi…

I know what you mean here. I used to download and meticulously tag my music and listen on an iPod classic. Sure maybe Spotify might not be ideal, but I do not have the time to fiddle around with all that anymore, and especially don’t want to spend tons more time on the computer than I already do. I am the same as you too with the smart speakers and family account too. The alternative is so much more effort, for not a huge amount of benefit.

That being said I have started collecting vinyl, which I do enjoy, but don’t often have the extra money laying around each month to buy more. One day I hope to have a nice dedicated setup for it :)

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15 years ago when I worked in the music streaming space we also had to push users to playlists instead of albums. The reason, in Germany at least, was that a playlist only payed 1/10 the royalties to the GEMA [1] than an album playthrough. Playlists were classified as ¨radio¨ and thus a performance of the radio station but an album was the performance of the original artist. Our interface was optimized for low royalt…

It would be great to be able to buy an album, pay the upfront cost, and then stream it for free. This is how Bandcamp works. I greatly prefer it to Spotify, but only because I'm not generally interested in mainstream bands.

I use Bandcamp. I started because many of the artists I listen too, put their music on Bandcamp. I briefly considered paying for Spotify, but at every turn they make it difficult to get to the music I want to play. Why would I pay for that?

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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> I can access basically every song ever recorded Not really, there is a lot missing from Spotify, and not just obscure music. And you have to accept the fact that music may (and does) go missing at any time. Plus, even for songs that are on the platform, you are forced to listen to what version they have, which is almost always a "remastered" version. Example: early Beatles songs have vocals hard-panned to one side,…

How does this work for you then: Spotify allows the vast majority of music listeners far more access to far more music than ever in history.

Poorly. Quantity may be a quality all it's own, but that quality is poor. There is a lot of music that is not on Spotify, while other music is there but only inferior versions.

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Right, I think people have no idea that home hifi speakers and amps even in the 1960s could sound essentially as good as today when fed with a good source. However that does not mean that one of those systems found in estate sale will sound ok today. The materials degrade and sound nothing today like they did when sold. I remember my dad's mid-60s KLH speakers sounding good with a mid-70s Sansui solid state receiver…

>class D Yamaha receiver that I use as the DAC whether driven by HDMI or TOSlink from a USB audio periphera I'm sorry to say I wimped out and, despite the low price and power efficiency, didn't try one of these, and opted for an older power hungry design. What did you get? I actually have an extra pair of the B&W speakers I got for my main system and was thinking of using them for the TV, but I don't want another clu…

I might have been too casual with jargon here... I used class D as a name for modern IC switching designs in place of the old class A or class AB designs that traditionally provided decent fidelity. I guess there are really quite a few classes here now and I don't really know which I have.

I bought a rather mid-level Yamaha home theater receiver with Dolby and DTS decoding back in the late 2000s, It is labeled as an HTR-6140 and must be discontinued for many years by now. It has a bunch of DSP scenes/modes. Other than wanting surround decoding and HDMI + TOSlink inputs, I did not geek out on specs. I merely assume it is class D because the whole receiver is pretty light, so no big heat sinks, and it doesn't seem to produce much waste heat compared to older receivers I've used.

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