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Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by layer8 »

sofixa wrote: post #98

I quite like YouTube Music's UI. The suggestions to relisten to songs I've listened to, the autosuggest continue on the same type of music works really well and has helped me discover many new bands i now like. The search manages to show the album art, title, artist and type ( song or album, and it's grouped by song, album, artist). And of course there's the added bonus that it comes with a YouTube Premium subscripti…

While its UI and its discovery algorithms could use some improvement, at least the mobile app UI doesn’t change all the time, and search results are lists, not tiles.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by the_snooze »

Nextgrid wrote: post #85
boesboes wrote: post #69

I f'ing hate spotify with a passion. The shit UX and them pushing JRE and other bullshit podcasts I dont want or need in my life was bad, but for me the final straw was that they decided to show me popups for their shit playlists when I was trying to put on one some music. Found out they have been doing it for years to people, and if you complain they basically refer you to the suggestion box and to go f yourself. I…

> Why would you want to torment paying customers like that? That's the problem with today's tech industry. The objective is not money, it's "growth and engagement".

Users are a resource to exploit, not customers to serve. Even if those are users are paying.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by tunap »

kirso wrote: post #143
lapser wrote: post #43

Spotify is horrendous. Their UI is subpar. Their mix of podcasts with songs is odd at best (seriously, I never listen to podcasts, why can't I switch it off completely?). Their shuffle is just not. Imagine listening to the same 20ish songs from a playlist of nearly 2k songs. How can you mess up shuffle that bad? It's also not easy to move away from it. It requires time and effort. Time that many don't have.

I always wondered about this. I had sooooo many songs saved yet I have been only listening to probably 20% of them. Why is that?

Revenues from licensing. Full stop.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by javajosh »

mcjiggerlog wrote: post #16

This is a big frustration of mine, too. The other is that Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. The good news is that Spotify's SDK and API are actually powerful enough that you can build up an entire alternative interface, which is actually what I recently started doing: https://i.imgur.com/ar7VrYy.png . It's still work in progr…

>Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful.

Does anyone else get a dystopian vibe from this statement? I feel like the old guy in the SF movie pulling his hair and exclaiming, "But what have we lost?!" We used to have vinyl, tapes, finally CDs, and even the ability to rip our library to a computer, which we could carry with us. It was naturally artist/album/track organized, required no internet, came with no tracking, centralized control, or subscription.

(A year ago I bought a (now very cheap) nice CD player, a (now very cheap) separate amp and speakers, and a nice (somehow not very cheap) turntable, and it's great! I even kind of like the strong bias toward playing the same album multiple times - good music is complex, intricate, and it rewards relistening like a book rewards rereading. And listening the way the artist recorded is, IMHO, far superior to the digital dystopian DJ of spotify.)

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by mskullcap »

I still miss rdio. Even though I have pretty diverse tastes in bands and musical styles, I loved how rdio would match me up with other people who shared similar musical interests. I could look at their music collection for inspiration. I would find many new artists I loved this way.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by agluszak »

My biggest problem with Spotify (and possibly the easiest to fix?) is that you can add songs only to a single end of the play queue. In Google Play Music (RIP) you had a deque. And that single reason is why I chose Tidal. I don't use playlists, I always eiter create my queue ad-hoc or listen to whole albums.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by WastingMyTime89 »

javajosh wrote: post #154
mcjiggerlog wrote: post #16

This is a big frustration of mine, too. The other is that Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. The good news is that Spotify's SDK and API are actually powerful enough that you can build up an entire alternative interface, which is actually what I recently started doing: https://i.imgur.com/ar7VrYy.png . It's still work in progr…

>Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. Does anyone else get a dystopian vibe from this statement? I feel like the old guy in the SF movie pulling his hair and exclaiming, "But what have we lost?!" We used to have vinyl, tapes, finally CDs, and even the ability to rip our library to a computer, which we could carry with us. It was…

Honestly I like physical media because manipulating them is pleasurable especially vinyl but the issue with playlist is only a Spotify UX issue. Apple Music doesn’t have it. YouTube Music doesn’t have it.

It’s just that Spotify has decided that the way to optimise revenue is to focus on being an exclusive provider of some original contents in the form of podcasts and has slowly started making the listening music side of the application worse and worse since.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by mattlondon »

To be honest the album art view in media catalogs is actually quite easy to "scan" if you know what you are looking for already. I guess our brains are probably hard wired for this sort of visual quickly-spotting-something-familair/-important/-dangerous-in-a-jumble-of-other-stuff type thing.

I would prefer a toggle to flip between a list (ideally with sortable headers etc) and album art cover view though - not exactly super complex to resolve.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by Cynosaur »

I still don't understand why sometimes I click play on an album of a specific artists and in half an hour or so songs from a completely different artists start playing too. I specifically did not click mix or radio or genre - just play on the album itself. I have no idea why big companies like that always have to have such shitty UI.
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