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Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by stavros »

bencollier49 wrote: post #34
mcjiggerlog wrote: post #16

This is a big frustration of mine, too. The other is that Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. The good news is that Spotify's SDK and API are actually powerful enough that you can build up an entire alternative interface, which is actually what I recently started doing: https://i.imgur.com/ar7VrYy.png . It's still work in progr…

> The good news is that Spotify's SDK and API are actually powerful enough that you can build up an entire alternative interface In most big web services, actual functionality in the API normally seems to leads to its eventual deprecation. Will be interesting to see how this one plays out.

Didn't they deprecate libspotify the other day?

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by arpanetus »

californical wrote: post #47
dm270 wrote: post #14

I don't know if others saw the same behavior. I'm on Android. And I feel like I'm in some sort of a big A/B test regarding their app. One day, the interface changes one way, couple days later it changes back. Constantly some menu or behavior changes. It's super frustrating. Lately it seems to have stabilized, but it really made me feel like a guinea pig. And maybe that's my inner old person speaking, but most of the…

Yeah I switched to Tidal when I learned about Spotify’s data sharing and privacy concerns a little over a year ago, but I was also so frustrated with Spotify’s UI always changing in frustrating ways and making it worse. They’d break features that I used often (playlist sorting broke, for example). I’d contact customer support and they’d go through this whole “uninstall and reinstall the app, does it still happen?” …Y…

Is Tidal's UI lightweight(like it's not Electron)? What about the songs? Are you satisfied with the songs library?

I'm thinking about switching since native spotify app's playing gif (or icon) spikes my CPU usage for some very strange reason.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by john___matrix »

The goal with this design (same for Netflix etc) is not to show you the results you want to see in the most efficient format, it's to push what they want you to see.

It's even more apparent on Netflix where the UI has got progressively worse over the years to the point it's basically unusable to discover stuff you actually want to see - I mean, large rows of "you watched this already, here it is again".

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by gryn »

lapser wrote: post #43

Spotify is horrendous. Their UI is subpar. Their mix of podcasts with songs is odd at best (seriously, I never listen to podcasts, why can't I switch it off completely?). Their shuffle is just not. Imagine listening to the same 20ish songs from a playlist of nearly 2k songs. How can you mess up shuffle that bad? It's also not easy to move away from it. It requires time and effort. Time that many don't have.

I guess they got inspired from the way youtube does it (or maybe the other way around)

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by Cipater »

danielovichdk wrote: post #48

I use Winamp for my MP3 collection that I downloaded of my T1 line at the office. When I turn that mother up on and my CRT monitor starts smoking because of the Winamp addons that spikes all kinds of shit whenever the tune is changing, then I know I have found the right track. Then I get cracking on the floor. Break dancing and caps flying around. The neighbors come jumping in the door and starts clapping and the mus…

Now THAT'S whipping the llama's ass.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by sofixa »

I quite like YouTube Music's UI. The suggestions to relisten to songs I've listened to, the autosuggest continue on the same type of music works really well and has helped me discover many new bands i now like.

The search manages to show the album art, title, artist and type ( song or album, and it's grouped by song, album, artist).

And of course there's the added bonus that it comes with a YouTube Premium subscription, so i get good music UI + no YouTube ads + YouTube mobile app downloads.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by Nextgrid »

raydiatian wrote: post #20

A concise explanation: functionalism is secondary to the attention economy for modern media platforms. Hard to advertise in a functional list grid, but yeah like fuck, I’m right there with you. It’s to the point where I’d rather just steal the album off of YouTube. At least there’s an ad-blocker.

The problem I see is that the "attention economy"'s end goal is still to be a marketing platform for real, paid products. It won't work in a world where there are no products and everything is an advertising platform - people won't be paying for the "privilege" of seeing ads.

The market has been distorted by VCs and investors who are willing to throw shit tons of money towards anything that "grows" and generates engagement. This pulled the ground out of the model of making products that people pay for - you would make money money (off investors) if you just give away your product than if you make people pay for it. That's how we ended up in the current situation, and there are tons of vested interests (people's entire careers are built on this) in perpetuating the problem even if the system can't ever be sustainable.

The music has to stop at some point though when everything is saturated by advertising. That appears to be now given the current, massive downturn. Investor money is no longer free or easy to come by, so the pendulum will have to swing back to making products funded by its end-customers.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by arpanetus »

boesboes wrote: post #69

I f'ing hate spotify with a passion. The shit UX and them pushing JRE and other bullshit podcasts I dont want or need in my life was bad, but for me the final straw was that they decided to show me popups for their shit playlists when I was trying to put on one some music. Found out they have been doing it for years to people, and if you complain they basically refer you to the suggestion box and to go f yourself. I…

Wait, what java runtime has to do with spotify?
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