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Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by zorr »

stavros wrote: post #91
bencollier49 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The good news is that Spotify's SDK and API are actually powerful enough that you can build up an entire alternative interface In most big web services, actual functionality in the API normally seems to leads to its eventual deprecation. Will be interesting to see how this one plays out.

Didn't they deprecate libspotify the other day?

libspotify != their API. Libspotify is a long-deprecated client library that allowed local playback. If you are OK with running one of the official clients for actual playback you can use the API to build an alternative browsing/controller client.

With some caveats though as I mentioned in another comment. Their API for controlling playback doesn't work well with Sonos players for example.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by [deleted] »

stavros wrote: post #91
bencollier49 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The good news is that Spotify's SDK and API are actually powerful enough that you can build up an entire alternative interface In most big web services, actual functionality in the API normally seems to leads to its eventual deprecation. Will be interesting to see how this one plays out.

Didn't they deprecate libspotify the other day?

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Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by stavros »

capableweb wrote: post #167
stavros wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't they deprecate libspotify the other day?

Not sure if you could call that "the other day", I think it happened back in 2015 or something like that.

I meant this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31420722

Oh, apparently they're completely blocking access now, yay.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by Reason077 »

capableweb wrote: post #167
stavros wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't they deprecate libspotify the other day?

Not sure if you could call that "the other day", I think it happened back in 2015 or something like that.

It was declared deprecated in 2015, but was actually disabled/removed in May 2022.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by mcjiggerlog »

zorr wrote: post #181
stavros wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't they deprecate libspotify the other day?

libspotify != their API. Libspotify is a long-deprecated client library that allowed local playback. If you are OK with running one of the official clients for actual playback you can use the API to build an alternative browsing/controller client. With some caveats though as I mentioned in another comment. Their API for controlling playback doesn't work well with Sonos players for example.

If you combine their API with their web playback SDK, you don't need an official client running. That means my app is completely standalone whilst being built only using officially supported endpoints.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by rplst8 »

It's not just Spotify that has this problem. All major, successful web applications have huge usability issues.

Software becomes successful not because of how it looks, but because of how it helps humans in their daily lives. The current fad is form over function to the nth degree.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by daveoc64 »

javajosh wrote: post #154
mcjiggerlog wrote: post #16

This is a big frustration of mine, too. The other is that Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. The good news is that Spotify's SDK and API are actually powerful enough that you can build up an entire alternative interface, which is actually what I recently started doing: https://i.imgur.com/ar7VrYy.png . It's still work in progr…

>Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. Does anyone else get a dystopian vibe from this statement? I feel like the old guy in the SF movie pulling his hair and exclaiming, "But what have we lost?!" We used to have vinyl, tapes, finally CDs, and even the ability to rip our library to a computer, which we could carry with us. It was…

Enjoyment of music linked to a specific physical item seems incredibly shallow to me.

If the music is worth listening to, the medium shouldn't matter at all.

Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?

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Post by wyager »

sorokod wrote: post #163

One can reverse engineer the ideal customer according to Spotify. It is a person who to a large extent gave up on strong personal preferences and is comfortable with algorithmic/business driven replacement.

Spotify's algorithmic song selection seems pretty mediocre to me. I think it might get confused by multi-genre listening.
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