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Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by thangalin »

zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #447
sdfghswe wrote: post #440

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Does that mean that up until now you thought Tesla is a company full of ethical people? And when I say "ethical people" I mean either the low level individuals wouldn't go violate their customer's privacy, AND the higher level individuals would put in place security measures that would make it impossible for the low-level employees to violate their customer's privacy? Seriously, in your mind what changed?

I had considered buying a Tesla, but didn't because the infrastructure isn't good enough yet where I live. But now, no, my next car will be an EV from any other manufacturer. I had no idea that Teslas had the ability to send video back to the company.

Check out the Hyundai Kona EV. Had mine for years. No significant problems. About 500 km range. Fully fast charges overnight.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by Consumer8735 »

zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #447
sdfghswe wrote: post #440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does that mean that up until now you thought Tesla is a company full of ethical people? And when I say "ethical people" I mean either the low level individuals wouldn't go violate their customer's privacy, AND the higher level individuals would put in place security measures that would make it impossible for the low-level employees to violate their customer's privacy? Seriously, in your mind what changed?

I had considered buying a Tesla, but didn't because the infrastructure isn't good enough yet where I live. But now, no, my next car will be an EV from any other manufacturer. I had no idea that Teslas had the ability to send video back to the company.

How do you think they were training their self driving system?

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by asdff »

recursive wrote: post #286
cheeze wrote: post #198

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I will say, as much as I dislike many of the antics of Amazon, I am imrpessed in how much they push for keeping customer trust. Which is terrifying to me, they have to be a top company in that aspect, and I don't even fully trust them to get it right. The little guy, unfortunately, has no chance :/

Amazon trying to keep trust? Have they done anything about commingled inventory and counterfeits yet?

They at least are pretty painless on returning the counterfeits unlike the other retailers pushing junk these days

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by zoklet-enjoyer »

Consumer8735 wrote: post #452
zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #447

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had considered buying a Tesla, but didn't because the infrastructure isn't good enough yet where I live. But now, no, my next car will be an EV from any other manufacturer. I had no idea that Teslas had the ability to send video back to the company.

How do you think they were training their self driving system?

I'd hope they'd have it trained before releasing it. Also, opt in and not recording when the car isn't driving.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by GravitasFailure »

buildbot wrote: post #443

…Europe is going to toast them over this. I wonder what impacts this will have on Teslas being in potentially sensitive areas, like parking lots for military bases.

I know of at least one company that was looking at using Teslas for their executive drivers, but as soon as the security team looked at the always on wireless connections and interior microphone the plan got axed. If that's the conclusion a small team of security guards comes to at a relatively small manufacturing company, I can't imagine the headaches larger teams have at bigger, more sensitive companies.

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Post by asdff »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #120
survirtual wrote: post #52

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That is the vehicle I want. A bare bones, maximum efficiency, rugged EV. A man can dream.

I think we'll start to see ICE-to-EV conversion kits become more popular over the next decade or so. So you may get your wish, just not with a brand-new car.

I think that's a pipe dream. Changing the powerplant on a car is not cheap at all, and thats when you are doing a 1 to 1 swap with something the car is built to handle. The battery array needs to go someplace too and it is quite large and heavy.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by fomine3 »

brandonagr2 wrote: post #312
stametseater wrote: post #281

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> one of the "Dieselgate" companies? There was only one "Dieselgate company", Volkswagen Group. BMW and Mercedes-Benz had nothing to do with it. And yes, I would rather buy a car that cheats on emissions tests than a car which spies on me. That's an easy choice (or would be, if I had any real confidence that VW cars truly don't spy on their users too. Which I don't.)

While Dieselgate refers to VW specifically, there are a lot of companies that have been caught cheating on emissions tests, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_emissions_scandal

It's weird that Bosch is mentioned only once on the page.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by fomine3 »

JohnFen wrote: post #406
sebzim4500 wrote: post #131

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Cover the camera with some tape? That's what I do with my laptop camera.

Why not buy laptops that don't have cameras? They exist, and doing that would at least help to add economic incentive for the continued production of them.

I'm pretty sure that Apple never remove camera even if millions of people bought cameraless Clevo laptop.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by recursive »

asdff wrote: post #453
recursive wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon trying to keep trust? Have they done anything about commingled inventory and counterfeits yet?

They at least are pretty painless on returning the counterfeits unlike the other retailers pushing junk these days

That's fine for paper towels I guess. But that doesn't cut it when there's a safety issue, which is most of the time.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by exodust »

Sounds like another Reuters beat-up. Start with dislike of Tesla/Musk, then write a "special report" on that basis.

> "Reuters contacted more than 300 former Tesla employees "

300! They tried extra hard to dig up dirt.

> "all speaking on condition of anonymity"... Of course. They don't work there any more, but happy to sling mud anonymously for Reuters clickbait.

> "Reuters wasn’t able to obtain any of the shared videos or images"... Oh no! You'll have to write extra-descriptive words about the "shocking" images.

> "The news agency wasn’t able to determine how widespread it was"

So what exactly was Reuters able to determine? Not much. By the sounds of it, users elected to share video, and some 20-something meme junkies at Tesla shared a few images internally... which is slap-on-write level stuff. Nobody kept any of the images, nothing leaked except anonymous stories from ex-employees!

> "Some former employees said the only sharing they observed was for legitimate work purposes"..

So... contradictory reports about images that don't exist, that might have been shared internally, to a degree we can't determine. Got it!

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