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Re: Apple Music Classical

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Back when scarcity was a thing, the act of powering through with media you didn’t initially like was one of the primary ways of maturing your taste and learning to like new things. Only consuming media which hooks you instantly is a good way to achieve the media equivalent of a sugar-only diet. I don’t have an answer for this to be honest, it’s just an observation.

See, were this true, my mother (who didn’t have the internet at all) would have a fine appreciation for country music and dancing. Because those were mostly all she had while growing up; she had plenty of time to learn appreciation for both. Obviously she didn’t. My father in turn never picked up a love for the beetles nor reading. So, while appealing to our lamentations about “kids these days”, your hypothesis is fl…

You’re misreading what I’m saying.

I’m not saying: You’ll like anything if you give it time.

I’m saying: There are things that you may not initially like, which you will like if you give it time. Which means that if you never give anything its proper time, you’re likely missing out on things you may have otherwise learned to appreciate.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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I've used Idagio for 6 months. They have a reasonable interface, good performances and sound quality, but their catalog is indeed limited. There are hundreds of performances of the same well-known works, but there's not (very) much beyond it. I've discovered about 100 fairly unknown composers through YouTube that I consider quite good, but many of them are missing from Idagio, or are listed with one or two works. The…

Any youtube recommendations?

For classical guitar: https://youtube.com/@SiccasGuitars

Re: Apple Music Classical

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My wife composes choral music and "new music". (what many here would consider classical) and has been using Bandcamp since 2009 with pretty good success. But even that gets tricky, as she is not the performer for any of the recordings. It's a strange world though, when so many people focus on centuries-old music by dead German men, that's going to be harder to market. My first glance at Apple Classical a few weeks ag…

Is Bandcamp oriented towards performers? I think I see what you mean in relation to what audiences Apple is presumably trying to cater to, though I have no market knowledge as to how “classical“ music audiences truly segment. Apple Classical becomes similar to Apple Music a way to (re-) discover both old catalog and new releases. Listening to Toscanini this morning, the performance and music sounds as fresh in 2022 a…

I know an artist who has a bandcamp profile, but doesn't make a lot of money over it. It's mostly a business card for getting booked. But that might apply to Spotify for not very well known artists, too.

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You probably will be able to get imitation in the not too distant future. But a world where we just listen to imitations of 50s and 60s derivatives of bebop is a sad one. The most loved musicians are ones who are pushing things forward and don't just imitate Trane endlessly or whatever. AI would need to be able to do something like create The Bad Plus in 1995. That's an even bigger mountain to climb.

What about imitating Coltrane’s Classic Quartet? That would be INSANE

I don't think it is completely unreasonable in the future. But I'm personally good with what we've got in this style. We don't need another A Love Supreme. We've already got it. It was fun when Both Directions at Once was discovered, but it isn't like it was something that we needed in 2018.

People will still want to create their sound, and that'll lead to new music over time that isn't just imitation.

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> I suspect that purchasing music files to own will seem increasingly strange and inconvenient to younger people, though. It'll be interesting to see what happens. As a fan of blues, I've noticed that there are a lot of grey songs in my Spotify playlists. There's just no practical way to be able to listen to the music I want to hear besides owning it (Youtube is hit-or-miss as well). For people who want to listen to…

Can you recommend some blues artists that I may not know about?

I got into blues via dancing, which has heavily influenced my tastes.

In no particular order:

* Will Wilde

* Sugarray Rayford

* Smokehouse

* Etta James

* Gordon Webster

* The Blue Vipers of Brooklyn

* Tin Pan

* Asylum Street Spankers

* Hugh Laurie

* Legendary Rhythm and Blues Revue

* Preservation Hall Jazz Band

* The Marsalis Family

* Katie Webster

* John Lee Hooker

* Keb Mo

* Son House

* Joe Bonamassa

* ZZ Ward

* Kevin Selfe

* Allen Toussaint

* Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown

* Bill Withers

* Nina Simone

* Buddy Guy

* Lightning Hopkins

* Howlin' Wolf

* Brother Yusef

There's probably a whole lot more - these are just the ones that I can think of off the top of my head. You probably know a lot of them, but I didn't want to guess which ones you know, so I just wrote out a bunch of people I like.

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I want that for pop music, too! I don't understand why Apple (and other companies) don't get that there are users who want to slice and dice music in this way for every genre. When I go looking for "No-one is to blame" by Howard Jones, I want the version from "Dream Into Action" not the crappy radio remake he did with Phil Collins on the drums. When I listen to "Leave it" by Yes, I may want to make the connection tha…

From popular genres I would think hip-hop would be the one to target; pop and rock have had pretty much for its entire existence encouraged listeners to link a recording with a band, and not to think about a producer or composer/writer, and to be generally negative about the idea of different performances (derided as covers, unless, like Joan Jett your covers become identified as the standard). Hip-hop fans are gener…

Hip hop also has a big history of guest spots, each getting their 16 bars, in a way you don't see with other popular genres.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Check out roon + quboz and/or tidal -- that's the audiophile route. Roon is just meta-data and presentation. Quboz/Tidal hold the content. Roon's content and interface is fantastic compared to spotify and apple music. It uses third party content (wikipedia, reviews from tivo, maybe others) seemlessly. And it elevates the use of the album art. Also, it allows for album-centric approach to viewing/organizing/listening…

> which may be way higher quality than the DAC in any apple device It's worse. The DAC in any Apple device has a higher R&D budget than the entire audiophile industry. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r... The Google dongle measures slightly worse but is still perfectly acceptable. Anyway, if your fridge is running or your subwoofer is misplaced that affects the sound more than any audiophil…

Dude, the DAC is not the dongle.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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This is the way. It’s perfectly acceptable to bounce off a book after five pages. Off a podcast with poor production quality. Off a song after the first measure. Tastes differ, so don’t feel bad if you dislike something the zeitgeist adores.

Back when scarcity was a thing, the act of powering through with media you didn’t initially like was one of the primary ways of maturing your taste and learning to like new things. Only consuming media which hooks you instantly is a good way to achieve the media equivalent of a sugar-only diet. I don’t have an answer for this to be honest, it’s just an observation.

I had typed out a response where I refer to the second two paragraphs of my reply above and elaborated on them, but a more interesting thought occurs: what is a sugar-only media diet? How does it differ from any other 'media diet'?

Let's say you'll only ever keep watching if a film begins with an explosion. Surely, if this how the audience behaves, then every film produced will quickly converge on beginning with explosions.

But if every film begins with explosions, maybe you become tired of all the explosions. Eventually you'll come to associate an explosion-heavy start with mediocre formulaic films, and your behaviour will reverse: maybe you'll now refuse to watch any film that begins with explosions.

Surely it's all just an endless cycle of fashions and counter-fashions, culture and counter-culture? The studio gives us what we crave, and we eat it all up until we're sick and want something else, and then some avant garde artist gives us something else, and if it works and is popular then all the studios steal it and the cycle repeats?

In as far as art isn't 'productive' per se - ars gratia artis and all that - to what end should you suffer through art you don't enjoy?

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I love this article. Technology is so good a cheap dongle can get … some of the way to a decent headphone amp! Take that audiophiles!

A DAC and an amp are two different things. It's not "worse" than dedicated amps either (it's better quality than many of those too), but it is lower powered because it's running off a phone battery, so that makes it less compatible with high-impedance headphones.

thanks - i was imprecise!

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> which may be way higher quality than the DAC in any apple device It's worse. The DAC in any Apple device has a higher R&D budget than the entire audiophile industry. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r... The Google dongle measures slightly worse but is still perfectly acceptable. Anyway, if your fridge is running or your subwoofer is misplaced that affects the sound more than any audiophil…

Dude, the DAC is not the dongle.

? Yes it is.
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