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Re: Apple Music Classical

#431

Am the only person who finds it completely ridiculous that not even APPLE can launch the iPad version of this app at the same time as their iOS one? I launch it on my iPad (which is hooked to my external dac/amp setup via usb-c) and I see.. This: https://imgur.com/a/cAX0zZA

I played around with the app a bit and so far it seems great.

So it's pretty disappointing I can't use it on my Mac where I'd most want it, cause I'm most likely to listen to classical music while working.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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One impediment is the pop industry doesn't organize it that way. Classical does, so PrimePhonic/Apple didn't have to invent a new taxonomy to make a classical service. Apple and Spotify could use their market power to make labels backfill a more complex data format for pop.

...or, they could pay actual human beings instead of just relying on the crap data that labels provide. Although I guess that in today's world, I could just say "use AI to figure it out."

The crap data that labels provide is a big issue and it should be part of Apple’s curation process to provide us with better information.

They already did by putting singles and EPs into their own category instead of listing everything under albums. Speaking of which, those also got de-duplicated.

No need to stop there.

Re: Apple Music Classical

#433

I would love to see something like this for jazz, which has musicians constantly moving through groups and albums as musicians and composers and writers. Like take "Take Five", one of my favorites. It was written by Paul Desmond for the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with solos by Desmond on alto sax and Joe Morello on drums. Those are all fun pieces of information that I wish I could click through to see more of. Just like c…

Check out roon + quboz and/or tidal -- that's the audiophile route. Roon is just meta-data and presentation. Quboz/Tidal hold the content. Roon's content and interface is fantastic compared to spotify and apple music. It uses third party content (wikipedia, reviews from tivo, maybe others) seemlessly. And it elevates the use of the album art. Also, it allows for album-centric approach to viewing/organizing/listening…

> which may be way higher quality than the DAC in any apple device

It's worse. The DAC in any Apple device has a higher R&D budget than the entire audiophile industry.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r...

The Google dongle measures slightly worse but is still perfectly acceptable.

Anyway, if your fridge is running or your subwoofer is misplaced that affects the sound more than any audiophile equipment purchase.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Check out roon + quboz and/or tidal -- that's the audiophile route. Roon is just meta-data and presentation. Quboz/Tidal hold the content. Roon's content and interface is fantastic compared to spotify and apple music. It uses third party content (wikipedia, reviews from tivo, maybe others) seemlessly. And it elevates the use of the album art. Also, it allows for album-centric approach to viewing/organizing/listening…

> which may be way higher quality than the DAC in any apple device It's worse. The DAC in any Apple device has a higher R&D budget than the entire audiophile industry. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r... The Google dongle measures slightly worse but is still perfectly acceptable. Anyway, if your fridge is running or your subwoofer is misplaced that affects the sound more than any audiophil…

I love this article. Technology is so good a cheap dongle can get … some of the way to a decent headphone amp! Take that audiophiles!

Re: Apple Music Classical

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It's how commerce works. As soon as AI can generate a commercially viable product, in less time and for less cost, human content ceases to have any commercial value, and as AI becomes ubiquitous it becomes normalized in pop culture. Appreciation comes with the inevitable cycle of one generation being born native to a paradigm shift rejecting the standards of the old guard. And it won't just be classical, it will be a…

We have machines that can produce clothing, yet there are people out there that buy custom tailored clothing. AI can generate images, yet people will go out there and buy something custom made. I think manufactories will become much more important and expand into more areas. Which means that hand-made music will just be much more expensive, and your "off-the-shelf"-production will be way cheaper.

We do not have machines that produce clothing. All clothing in the entire world is handmade, which is why developing countries like Bangladesh specialize in it.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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> which may be way higher quality than the DAC in any apple device It's worse. The DAC in any Apple device has a higher R&D budget than the entire audiophile industry. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r... The Google dongle measures slightly worse but is still perfectly acceptable. Anyway, if your fridge is running or your subwoofer is misplaced that affects the sound more than any audiophil…

I love this article. Technology is so good a cheap dongle can get … some of the way to a decent headphone amp! Take that audiophiles!

A DAC and an amp are two different things. It's not "worse" than dedicated amps either (it's better quality than many of those too), but it is lower powered because it's running off a phone battery, so that makes it less compatible with high-impedance headphones.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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I wonder if a key element is direct connections with fans. My 13-yo daughter is obsessed with classical music and her favourite performers seem to have strong YouTube presences. Outside the classical world, if you look at a site like Bandcamp, that idea seems core. The business model also seems exactly like what you are talking about, both for performers and for the site. I see a lot of very obscure, niche electronic…

I have long wanted to build a combination of: Bandcamp, GitHub, and Steam for musicians. Basically, a platform for musicians to produce music (and associated videos, artworks, etc), managing their assets securely, sharing and collaborating; then engagement with fans, promotion, merch, and touring support; and finally a simple platform for sales (streaming, downloads, and physical good) where the store takes a reasona…

Fond memories of Indaba Music cerca 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9dHygbi0kI

Re: Apple Music Classical

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> But unfortunately, this wont change the fact that the classical recording industry is dying and that the sector is only surviving thanks to public and private subsidies. Bet $100 that all classical music will be AI generated (synthesized and composed) in just three years. Supply side will be infinite.

Why would anyone want to listen to it then? what would be the point? The acoustic equivalent of a screensaver?

> Why would anyone want to listen to it then? what would be the point? The acoustic equivalent of a screensaver?

The same reason anyone does anything. Because they like it.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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> But unfortunately, this wont change the fact that the classical recording industry is dying and that the sector is only surviving thanks to public and private subsidies. Bet $100 that all classical music will be AI generated (synthesized and composed) in just three years. Supply side will be infinite.

I would bet heavily against that any such generated music to become popular (except maybe as bad filler music for video games music etc). The truth is that classical music fan are very very picky about what they like. Computers have been "better" musician than human for a long time: a midi file is always played "perfectly". Yet it's sounds horrible, mechanised to our ears. The controlled imperfection of a real human…

That sounds more like there's a listening "uncanny valley" that the new AI is resolving for images that needs to be solved for audio.

Re: Apple Music Classical

#440

The domain applemusic.apple is outstanding. It’s giving Tim Apple energy.

The best part is that it isn’t even set up: https://applemusic.apple/ This awkward press release lives at https://learn.applemusic.apple/apple-music-classical Drop the pathname and you get a nice 404.

It does seem to be set up now; it redirects to https://www.apple.com/apple-music/, which is reasonable behavior.
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