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Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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Post by notyourday » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 4:58 PM UTC

megous wrote: post #445

notyourday wrote: post #426

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> Well that's the wrong approach right there. I'm glad to serve the needs of the other person, but I'll not approach someone with this mindset at the beginning (like sales people have to do). And how is it working for you? Because this seems to be the approach advocated and practiced by the "nice guys" who complain that they can't get a date. > You walk up to someone, start opening your mouth for a word, and they swi…

It worked great. But it was not an online dating. > It is great! It is called "No product market fit!" But that's not really differentiating it from the other a,b,c options you provided.

> But that's not really differentiating it from the other a,b,c options you provided.

Vs the long form? Of course it did. No time wasting for her and no time wasting for her suitor.

Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 4:58 PM UTC

body12 wrote: post #367

jellicle wrote: post #352

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This. The experience of women on dating sites is this: lots of messages from men that basically say (often exactly this): "Wanna fuck?" Like, that's the whole message. Except there's almost always multiple misspellings, no matter how short the message is. So it's more like "U wanna fuk?". And then those men go on their local message boards and complain that no one is responding to that pithy, well-crafted message and…

The number of men in the US aged 18-30 reporting no sex in the previous year has almost tripled since 2010 [1]. It seems there are economic or cultural factors at play besides not well-crafting their messages or showering enough. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-ame...

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Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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Post by ClumsyPilot » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 4:58 PM UTC

notyourday wrote: post #436

guskel wrote: post #422

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It really is that hard though. There's plenty of men that follow all of your advice and receive hardly any matches.

If my reading is correct, the person who you responded to is a woman who has tried online dating. Even if it is not, that is probably a man who has tried online dating well and did well enough to be able to ask a woman he is dating/dated and shared what was told to them. Your response is quite illustrative of reactions men have to observations on this topic the women make -- they do not like it . They especially do n…

You seem to be confirming his viewpoint, if anything - the person is saying that some people are finding it difficult. Could be for any reason.

Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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Post by fetbaffe » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 5:07 PM UTC

devb wrote: post #323

fetbaffe wrote: post #310

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You don’t seem understand at all. Biologically males are supposed to make contact with females, that is how every species works, but we as humans has now created an environment where that is either frowned upon or ridiculed.

This is untrue. Jacanas, phalaropes, sandpipers, and topi antelopes are just a few counterexamples of your ridiculous assertion.

Few exceptions to the general rule then. Ok.

Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 5:39 PM UTC

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #453

notyourday wrote: post #436

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If my reading is correct, the person who you responded to is a woman who has tried online dating. Even if it is not, that is probably a man who has tried online dating well and did well enough to be able to ask a woman he is dating/dated and shared what was told to them. Your response is quite illustrative of reactions men have to observations on this topic the women make -- they do not like it . They especially do n…

You seem to be confirming his viewpoint, if anything - the person is saying that some people are finding it difficult. Could be for any reason.

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Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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Post by RandomBacon » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 5:41 PM UTC

__david__ wrote: post #174

dhnsmakala wrote: post #99

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Is people misrepresenting themselves something you encounter frequently? Seems like a short sighted move.

There was a really good OkCupid blog post that analyzed their member profiles and found that men that were 5’10” and 5’11” would round up to 6’. It was a pretty significant portion of them, too.

Do you know if they said what would happen if the user just left the height portion blank?

Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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Post by guskel » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 5:59 PM UTC

notyourday wrote: post #436

guskel wrote: post #422

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It really is that hard though. There's plenty of men that follow all of your advice and receive hardly any matches.

If my reading is correct, the person who you responded to is a woman who has tried online dating. Even if it is not, that is probably a man who has tried online dating well and did well enough to be able to ask a woman he is dating/dated and shared what was told to them. Your response is quite illustrative of reactions men have to observations on this topic the women make -- they do not like it . They especially do n…

The instagram mentioned contains mostly messages. Most guys aren't even getting matches, so they are not being disqualified because of their messages.

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Post by RandomBacon » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 6:01 PM UTC

lordgrenville wrote: post #216

Stratoscope wrote: post #148

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Yes indeed, and I have no problem with their choice to serve only those who fit with their mission. If they had only been honest and up front about it, and as soon as I said I was "separated" they said "sorry, we're not the dating service for you", it would have been fine! I would have respected that and moved on. But when they actively lied to me by leading me through the entire onboarding process - when they knew f…

It may have been incompetence instead of malice (eg they only implemented the marital status filter a while after designing the onboarding form). Either way that sounds really annoying, though.

It sounds like they did ask that question first, but only validated it after all the following questions were asked.

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Post by jorvi » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 6:16 PM UTC

cameronbrown wrote: post #409

jorvi wrote: post #215

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> So to sum up my point, I'm struggling to see a solution here. Human nature can't be rewritten, no matter how hard we try. You could write an algorithm that subtly punishes women for being too picky and at the same time punishes men for being unselective (only swiping right, then filtering later). Of course, as soon as it comes out that you are rebalancing the market that way no one will use your app anymore, but it…

Ah yes, social engineering for the modern age. I'm not sure which path is worse, your suggestion or the status quo.

Something will have to give at some point.

I remember someone at HN posting a graph that showed that for something like 40 years the amount of singles reporting 'no sex within the last year' had been relatively equal (both men and women around 18%), but since the rise of Tinder et al men had shot up to 30% whereas women were still at 18%.

On an individual level I won't pass judgment on women for doing whatever they want, but on a societal level such a sea change in behavior and it's attached consequences does not seem healthy or stable.