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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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dlp211 wrote: post #354
williamgrant wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is a common sentiment there that the only good Democrat is a dead one. A similar sentiment is commonly expressed by far left individuals and groups on Twitter, Facebook and other mediums. "the only good Tory is a dead Tory" has been the popular refrain for decades. It's depressing these sentiments are carelessly amplified and approved by so many. Edit: Apparently this has caused a stir. I encourage others to not…

The difference* of course is that none of those people have real political power, Democrats are not trying to appease them. The far left aren't the force behind a Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer. Those on r/the_donald are Trump's base, the one's that he tries to appease. *US centric view only, don't know enough about European politics to have an informed opinion.

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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forgingahead wrote: post #419
dangus wrote: post #383

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As a counterpoint to that, there is really nothing “normal” about supporting Trump. He really is just as bad as his critics say. This is the guy that retweeted a video of someone yelling white power in support. This is the guy who called COVID-19 the “Kung flu.” This is the guy that said there were “fine people on both sides” where one side was neo-Nazis. This is the guy that encouraged both police and rally-goers to…

I'm still amazed at how effectively the media has brainwashed half of the voting public in the US that the other half are literal monsters. I say this with complete sympathy and sincerity - please seek professional help, from a declared non-political therapist. You need to break out of the daily "two-minutes of hate" conditioning, and just relearn to live in a society with different viewpoints.

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by munchbunny »

tbabb wrote: post #286
ve55 wrote: post #7

Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

> You have to pick who you want to cave to Why does the narrative have to be about "caving" to someone instead of weighing principles against each other and taking the action which protects what's most important?

I don't think the "caving" framing was about how the decision maker thinks about it, more about how one side or another sees it as "caving".

Life is full of dilemmas like that where it's not possible to make everyone happy, but content moderation is full of dilemmas where, no matter what you choose, a few very unhappy ones will hound you to the ends of the earth.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by edoceo »

spaced-out wrote: post #372
lucasmullens wrote: post #169

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> Users won't allow for (use) decentralized platforms until there is a good way to censor them. Once that happens, what would be the point of switching. You could imagine a world where there's multiple apps that access the same decentralized platform, where the censoring happens at the application level. So if your favorite community gets banned in one app, if you want, you could switch to a different app. Not a perf…

And how would a community deal with being brigaded by another, often larger community?

Wouldn't each community have their own userbase? So brigaders would need to make new accounts to execute the attack. Maybe a hill/gate could be introduced for new accounts to rate-limit the influx?

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by irvwash »

_1qd4 wrote: post #307
samfriedman wrote: post #159

The title should be updated, as T_D was just one of a large number of subs banned today; even then, it has been largely irrelevant since the admins' earlier decision to quarantine it and impose other restrictions. Other larger banned subs include /r/GenderCritical (anti-Trans) and /r/ConsumeProduct which was ostensibly for criticism of consumerism and product promotion, but hid a large strain of antisemitism below th…

/r/ConsumeProduct was antisemtic? I never saw that in the posts of theirs that made the front page. It was always memes about over-consumption, they might make fun of disposable make-up wipes for example ("And when you're done, just throw it away!" cue gallery yelling in a robotic voice: CONSUME PRODUCT ). Genuinely curious what the link to antisemitism is. Is the thought that consumerism = big business, and big busi…

I don't know how common it was, but I found this in the first comment section I looked:

> Could it be the Chosenbergs? Although a small group, they seem to control the majority of US record labels, as well as the news outlets, the pharmaceutical companies, the bank institutions, the pornography industry, the entertainment industry, ect.

(9 points, replying to "I wonder who runs these record labels?" which was setting up that reply)

https://web.archive.org/web/20200620202415/https://old.reddi...

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by esperent »

pjc50 wrote: post #139
kylebenzle wrote: post #41

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Users won't allow for (use) decentralized platforms until there is a good way to censor them. Once that happens, what would be the point of switching. Facebook and Reddit are successful BECAUSE they are censorship machines. Facebook spends far more man hours on "curating" content compared to engineering. Same with Reddit. Add up all the "moderation" time spent removing negative or controversial posts and I bet much m…

Indeed. The average user, especially women, does not enjoy having their boundaries pushed by an escalation of shocking (but not illegal!) and pornographic (but not illegal!) images, which you will get if you don't have moderation, and even a bit if you do. As proven by Slashdot twenty years ago. Oh, and the plain spam. C1al1s spammers can fill your entire board if you let them.

> The average user, especially women,

It consistently amazes me that people deny the possibility that women enjoy pornography. On the contrary, a large amount, possibly even the majority, of pornography on reddit is posted and created by women. Some of them do so to make money, but a lot do it simply because they enjoy it.

Many women enjoy (for lack of a better word) gore, horror, and shock content too.

> does not enjoy having their boundaries pushed

Again to the contrary, the majority of people, especially young people, actively seek to have their boundaries pushed to one degree or another.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by SkyBelow »

zimac wrote: post #313

New rule change is essentially no hate subs except if it’s hate against a majority aka white people. As a minority I’m tired of defending white people from other white people and being shouted at by white people for doing so. I’ve tried for 6 years to push for equality for all and had the most insane rebuttals against that.

Oddest thing is that many groups deemed a majority are not if one looks at a global scale. It really seems the terms majority/minority are selectively defined as needed to target certain groups.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by williamgrant »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #356
williamgrant wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is a common sentiment there that the only good Democrat is a dead one. A similar sentiment is commonly expressed by far left individuals and groups on Twitter, Facebook and other mediums. "the only good Tory is a dead Tory" has been the popular refrain for decades. It's depressing these sentiments are carelessly amplified and approved by so many. Edit: Apparently this has caused a stir. I encourage others to not…

They're not. Not only is "The only good Tory is a dead Tory" not a popular refrain at all [1], but a quick search for "The only good Republican is a dead Republican" returns a lot of hits for the "[...] dead Democrat" quote and almost none for the search phrase. These attempts at false equivalence reliably appear in these situations, and there's reliably nothing to back them up. The difference is the right is trying…

> You certainly won't hear it from any left-leaning MPs or in Labour constituency meetings. And if that weren't true, recordings would be all over the media.

I didn't/wouldn' claim we would hear it from left-leaning MPs.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

abellerose wrote: post #318
gtk40 wrote: post #255

/r/gendercritical was also banned, an active and well-moderated radical feminist sub. I am not a radical feminist, nor was I particularly welcomed there as a man, but I found the sub interesting to expand my perspective.

What did that subreddit do besides hating on trans people? I never saw anything but countless posts targeting hate against trans people.

Could you expand on objectively what you experienced that you felt was hate?
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