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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by commandlinefan »

ve55 wrote: post #18
toomuchtodo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Appears to be fronted by Cloudflare (as of 1593450845). Curious to see how long that lasts in the current tumultuous environment.

Cloudflare isn't in the business of deplatforming and moderating the way that social media companies are. We all know about that one case, but it was not only an extreme outlier, but also had some other reasoning behind it. I will predict CF does not deplatform them any time soon.

> isn't in the business of deplatforming and moderating

Yet. It seems like the next logical place for cancel culture to move.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by duxup »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #109
duxup wrote: post #35

It was largely empty after the quarantine. I always wondered what the actual population of that sub was, I felt like I saw some strange patterns where whole hordes of users would appear, disappear, mob another sub and so on. It felt like a very non organic community in many ways. The issues surroundings that sub weren't just some folks who had a sub to talk to each other, they were very busy mobbing / taking over oth…

> I felt like I saw some strange patterns where whole hordes of users would appear, disappear, mob another sub and so on. It felt like a very non organic community in many ways. Wouldn't that match the claims that it was largely just full of bots?

I think so. It certainly seed that way, the waves of new accounts was noticeable at times.

Even better when the more interactive new users would show up with strange language patterns / reading comprehensions patterns too would show up alongside them.... usually posting the same links some other 'users' posted months ago, those dissapeared a while back, but they were around for a while.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

BoorishBears wrote: post #73
parliament32 wrote: post #9

Whether you agree with the move or not, it's funny how Reddit's stance has changed over time. Under the old ownership, 2012: "At reddit we care deeply about not imposing ours or anyone elses’ opinions on how people use the reddit platform. We are adamant about not limiting the ability to use the reddit platform even when we do not ourselves agree with or condone a specific use. We have very few rules here on reddit;…

The Donald would have been deleted under the old leadership too... They got in hot water not for supporting Trump (there are plenty of pro-Trump subreddits) but actively breaking the most basic rules of Reddit, maybe you should actually look at their history. Spamming the same images to the subreddit, interfering with other subreddits, trying to out whistleblowers in federal cases, gaming the content discovery system…

Your history is quite wrong.

They were initially quarantined for “anti police” comments.

Which looking through the current state of Reddit is a bit hypocritical.

Edit: https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Scree...

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by TheGrim-888 »

Everyone was calling out, even years ago, that this was going to happen. You have a demonstrably left leaning group that turned evil long ago, it was so obvious that they would try to shut down any dissenting opinions (wrong think) before the election.

If you're a leftist, you're on the side of censorship, deplatforming, and book burning. You may argue that it's GOOD censorship, that it's worth it, but you're still a book burner. You can argue that it's legal, but it's still book burning. You can talk about how evil the book you're burning is, but you're still a book burner. You can burn any book you want by just saying it's racist and then just memory hole it.

The really ironic part is that one of the major justifications used to quarantine the forum a few months ago was alleged "threats against the police". Funny how the tables have turned isn't it? I guess when you're corrupt it really shows .. how rules only apply to other people, but you play by your own set of rules.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by teej »

duxup wrote: post #35

It was largely empty after the quarantine. I always wondered what the actual population of that sub was, I felt like I saw some strange patterns where whole hordes of users would appear, disappear, mob another sub and so on. It felt like a very non organic community in many ways. The issues surroundings that sub weren't just some folks who had a sub to talk to each other, they were very busy mobbing / taking over oth…

Reddit Admins posted this[0] list which had r/td at less than 8k daily active users before being shut down. I imagine that’s an order of magnitude below its peak.

[0]: https://www.redditstatic.com/banned-subreddits-june-2020.txt

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by pjc50 »

kylebenzle wrote: post #41
ve55 wrote: post #7

Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

Users won't allow for (use) decentralized platforms until there is a good way to censor them. Once that happens, what would be the point of switching. Facebook and Reddit are successful BECAUSE they are censorship machines. Facebook spends far more man hours on "curating" content compared to engineering. Same with Reddit. Add up all the "moderation" time spent removing negative or controversial posts and I bet much m…

Indeed. The average user, especially women, does not enjoy having their boundaries pushed by an escalation of shocking (but not illegal!) and pornographic (but not illegal!) images, which you will get if you don't have moderation, and even a bit if you do. As proven by Slashdot twenty years ago.

Oh, and the plain spam. C1al1s spammers can fill your entire board if you let them.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by 50ckpuppet »

ceedan wrote: post #43
kylebenzle wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a "real" definition of hate speech? It seems like a hard to define rule. I also hate Trump but am allowed to say any horrible thing I want to about him, but if I were to same the same things about Hilary (I also hated her as a politician) it would be hate speech.

Unless you're saying horrible things about her by attacking her gender, then it wouldn't be hate speech. If you have a difficult time saying horrible things about Hillary Clinton without attacking her gender, you might actually be sexist. Think about it. How do you really feel about women?

Do you mean like attacking members of her own gender when she persecuted her husband's rape victims to protect her own political aspirations? I imagine Juanita Broddrick would have something to say about this?
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