Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice • Hacker News Board

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by mitxela » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 1:30 AM UTC

jesuslop wrote: post #235

Maybe we should define and spec what is an Open Platform, say RSS, Mastodon, grandma cookies recipe in a txt in an Apache, etc. Then paint a beautiful "open platform" logo and start making some collective noises, some pinky flower good-guy psiops. If reply is it alrady exists, it ain't rather working. Currently civil life is being shaped for the algos and the money, that is ok in business terms, we civilians are not…

People don't gravitate to open or closed platforms, or platforms at all. They gravitate to something else. I think it's the ability to reply to a global conversation and feel like you're doing something, like I am right now.

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by mitxela » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 1:30 AM UTC

hyperionultra wrote: post #302

gblargg wrote: post #299

Door 1: try to take down sites offering a lite version that people prefer over x.com. Door 2: improve x.com to be better than third-party sites. Which is, Elon?

Door 3: turn off API.

Nitter doesn't use the Application Programming Interface. It uses Adversarial Platform Interoperability, instead.

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by mitxela » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 1:31 AM UTC

int32_64 wrote: post #29

It seems like it would be a trivial statistical exercise to find all the nitter instance X accounts and just ban them, it's actually embarrassing they got lawyers involved instead of just doing that if they didn't want nitter to function.

x accounts with blank reputation cost $0.01 each on the grey web

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by mitxela » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 1:33 AM UTC

MikhailTal wrote: post #176

Decabytes wrote: post #156

I feel like setting up the social media is a solved problem. And while getting users is hard, if you hook up to the fediverse, you can piggy back off other Platforms. I think the harder problem is making it profitable

> if you hook up to the fediverse No this is the hard problem. HN people live in a bubble. Anything else than signup with oauth and then having access to everyone and its too hard and 99% of people will click away.

You using the word oauth means you're in the same bubble. People want signup with Google or Apple or even better, username/password signup or zero signup

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by mitxela » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 1:34 AM UTC

sylware wrote: post #366

Keep in mind that those front-ends are, in general, much more friendly towards noscript/basic HTML browsers than the official front-ends broke a few year ago. (well, nitter was at the time) Don't think the 'whatwg cartel' will let some web not require their web engines. Expect shadowpaid hackers to ruin their infrastructure. Don't be a fool, expect the worst (more so when the whatwg cartel is involved). And if you, y…

I'm running one and bots are trying to abuse it to poll or scrape twitter

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by nextaccountic » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 3:07 AM UTC

GJim wrote: post #355

kitd wrote: post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google and Facebook fucked up the internet. I'd say advertising has fucked up the Internet. Everything they (and plenty of others) have done has been to collect and sell personal data to advertising brokers.

> I'd say advertising has fucked up the Internet Nothing wrong with honest advertising per se..... back in the day we bought computer magazines mainly for the adverts. Rather, the problem is the SV AdTech industry which seeks to track me, invade my privacy at every opportunity and is busy sniffing my knickers trying to work out if I'm pregnant so they can sell me more shite. One observes the FUD those employed by AdT…

The problem was that the Internet allowed for the "innovation" of tracking users to send specific ads to them. And it wasn't made promptly illegal. That's all it took

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by nextaccountic » Tue, Sep 08, 2026, 3:10 AM UTC

alex1138 wrote: post #285

mitxela wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Institutional misincentives at Google. People are promoted for launching a product, and they're promoted away from the product they launched, and nobody wants to maintain it since you don't get promoted for maintaining a product someone else launched.

I had to 'vouch' this comment. It was [dead]. Why? Who sits here lurking this site flagging every single thing they disagree with?

Probably anti-ban evasion signal (user was previously banned, created a new account, gets shadowbanned on spot)

I agree that shadowbans are an underhanded measure that doesn't belong in a site like HN. I always vouch [dead] comments made in good faith