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Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by koyote »

progval wrote: post #152
gloosx wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you dont mind, could you share an example of information posted exclusively on twitter which was crucial to you? Just curious;)

Paris' subway and local train lines each have a Twitter account, and they are the only reliable source of information regarding outages. Phone apps (at least three official ones with different data sources!) and websites can be outdated. Displays in station too (though less often), have outages of their own, and (rarely) even incorrect updates.

It almost seems like we need laws that information about public services have to be available on a public website (as opposed to a third-party website that requires registration).

I personally do not know anyone in real life with a twitter account (although I have one, I have not used it in over 15 years), I wonder how many people just go without this information and are angry that it's (seemingly) not available.

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Post by r_lee »

ohyoutravel wrote: post #218
r_lee wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sure that I can disagree with, there definitely are people like that, there's billions of us after all but I'm pretty sure he was referencing Elon there, as in there's no such thing as him doing such a salute but hey, I can't even see the original post because it was flagged, like mine is now. so that's great.

I do think it’s interesting that in a conversation about nazis where Elon musk hadn’t been mentioned, that’s the first place your brain goes. You heard “Nazi” and immediately thought “Elon”. Curious.

huh? that's literally the context of this thread.

how did you conclude that Elon wasn't mentioned?

Curious.

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Post by mitxela »

progval wrote: post #152
gloosx wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you dont mind, could you share an example of information posted exclusively on twitter which was crucial to you? Just curious;)

Paris' subway and local train lines each have a Twitter account, and they are the only reliable source of information regarding outages. Phone apps (at least three official ones with different data sources!) and websites can be outdated. Displays in station too (though less often), have outages of their own, and (rarely) even incorrect updates.

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Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by tokioyoyo »

gloosx wrote: post #82
codechicago277 wrote: post #3

Few details but glad to see the project will continue. Given how much crucial information is posted exclusively to X, having an alternative frontend is important. Interesting that they were inspired by Invidious (alternative YouTube frontend). That’s another project that could use some love. Hopefully AI coding tools can do some good and make it easier for these projects to find ways into the walled gardens and work…

If you dont mind, could you share an example of information posted exclusively on twitter which was crucial to you? Just curious;)

Any big information fan out is pretty useful for JP twitter. Like yes, we’ll get notifications for flooding / earthquake and etc., but if you want up to date, on the ground videos and etc. it’s pretty useful. Not even talking about the train line scenarios as other commentators mentioned.

There’s a system that is not replicable unless you have majority of the population on the same social media.

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Post by jesuslop »

Maybe we should define and spec what is an Open Platform, say RSS, Mastodon, grandma cookies recipe in a txt in an Apache, etc. Then paint a beautiful "open platform" logo and start making some collective noises, some pinky flower good-guy psiops. If reply is it alrady exists, it ain't rather working. Currently civil life is being shaped for the algos and the money, that is ok in business terms, we civilians are not coaxed to post or follow Twitter or Facebook as in an Orwellian bad dream. We rather opt-in, yet the politic process is not more illustrated despite all factual discussions at a chat distance of resolution, rational debate is penalized for being boring and much we are offered is as gamified as the Aliexpress user experience. Let's convince ourselves first that the parallel non-profit internet is a grand place to find the full spectrum of human rant in all its glory and gore. Hail the guy in his basement that made and documented a COTS parts scanning tunnel microscope. That is open platform content. Heck, remember webrings? Megacorps are not the problem, it is us being lazy even as spectators.

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Post by mitxela »

mosura wrote: post #197
sjourner wrote: post #192

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They don't use Twitter, but my university exclusively uses Facebook for news and relevant announcements like scholarships, days off due to weather, etc. they won't even use their official webpage but for posting the official calendar...

Both FB and WhatsApp have serious lockin with this sort of thing, far more than X does.

WhatsApp is currently not enshittified enough to be a problem, although they do put an entry in my conversation list to talk to their AI.

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Post by mitxela »

mosura wrote: post #200
echelon wrote: post #131

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Google and Facebook fucked up the internet. The internet we had in the 90's and early 00's was amazing. Everything felt free, indie, hackable, composable, ingestible. You didn't worry about platforms because most platforms exposed their data via friendly APIs (remember when Reddit and Twitter had an API and that they encouraged people to actually use them?) RSS everywhere, websites with honest to god Bittorrent links…

That Google failed to turn Google Reader into a giant open blogging social network and instead created G+ is something we will still be wondering after Google itself has stopped existing.

Institutional misincentives at Google. People are promoted for launching a product, and they're promoted away from the product they launched, and nobody wants to maintain it since you don't get promoted for maintaining a product someone else launched.

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Post by mitxela »

bsoqk wrote: post #228
echelon wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google and Facebook fucked up the internet. The internet we had in the 90's and early 00's was amazing. Everything felt free, indie, hackable, composable, ingestible. You didn't worry about platforms because most platforms exposed their data via friendly APIs (remember when Reddit and Twitter had an API and that they encouraged people to actually use them?) RSS everywhere, websites with honest to god Bittorrent links…

We stopped having APIs because of Cambridge Analytica.

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Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

echelon wrote: post #213
mosura wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Google failed to turn Google Reader into a giant open blogging social network and instead created G+ is something we will still be wondering after Google itself has stopped existing.

There are a lot of possible futures for Google. Here are a couple that I see: 1. Google de-ossifies and starts shipping. They have all the AI talent and infra necessary to "own" AI and get people and industry using its models and products. They don't have the same costs that OpenAI and Anthropic do and have a much healthier income stream. They can productively put Gemini in front of more people and embed deep into pe…

They'll start server side rendering sites onto a canvas. I suspect that's what Stadia will be reborn as.
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