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Post by happymellon »

ksenzee wrote: post #419
happymellon wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that. One persons level of comfort is not the same as others, so just saying I want people to be comfortable having their religious opinions respected is not a simple request. Some religious opinions are basically oppression of others. I refuse to allow people to be bigots in my presence regardless of their reasoning.

Having previously been a member of such a religion, and having left it specifically over human rights issues, I am delighted to inform you that there are many individuals who identify as members of such religions but who are not personally bigoted, and who in fact may privately be uncomfortable about that aspect of their religious belief. If you already know someone, and you have reason to believe they're not bigoted…

Unfortunately I am going to have to disagree.

Also as someone who was a member of church which had anti-christian ideals, pointing out the hypocrisy can be the only way for them to question what they are in. Doing and saying nothing helps no one.

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Post by lwelyk »

asdfasvea wrote: post #415
oliwarner wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> good candidates interview but decline the pub afterwards - they did not get offers That's one hell of a lawsuit you're opening yourself up to there. People who don't drink have significant overlap with protected classes.

Not trying to go ad hominem, but that's a very ignorant statement. 1. Which ones? I used to be able to stereotype with the best of them, but I cant quickly come up with any protected class that is assigned as teetotalers. 2. Saying you're not hiring someone because they don't drink is a perfectly valid reason for not hiring someone, even if it's a cover for not hiring them because of protected class membership. The l…

Pregnant women are not supposed to drink.

Many religions discourage or disallow drinking.

I believe a recovered/recovering alcoholic could be considered a protected class.

Many medical conditions or medications cannot be combined with alcohol.

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Post by KptMarchewa »

iwontberude wrote: post #353
pif wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think most people think of it as a free vacation. I'm shocked that someone does NOT think so!

Not as shocking when you realize you are wasting your downtime with work colleagues. I’d rather have control over my downtime regardless of who is paying.

Do you really think it's either or? I certainly don't use my days off for that.

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Post by [deleted] »

asdfasvea wrote: post #415
oliwarner wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> good candidates interview but decline the pub afterwards - they did not get offers That's one hell of a lawsuit you're opening yourself up to there. People who don't drink have significant overlap with protected classes.

Not trying to go ad hominem, but that's a very ignorant statement. 1. Which ones? I used to be able to stereotype with the best of them, but I cant quickly come up with any protected class that is assigned as teetotalers. 2. Saying you're not hiring someone because they don't drink is a perfectly valid reason for not hiring someone, even if it's a cover for not hiring them because of protected class membership. The l…

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Post by swat535 »

happymellon wrote: post #366
mlrtime wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This says a lot more about you than them.

It says a similar amount about both of us.

As a Catholic I agree with the parent. "Street preaching" never works and bothers people. There are better ways to evangelize.

Work environments are professional environments.

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Post by fullshark »

wongarsu wrote: post #277
johndubchak wrote: post #201

I cannot see this ending up well for Netflix. It sounds like it personally offended someone's sensibility and they decided to fire the guy. I expect Netflix to lose this lawsuit, but more importantly, settle it before it ever goes anywhere.

And don't forget the effect on employee morale, retention and hiring. They have now made the international news cycle for firing an employee for sharing after being encouraged to share, and doing a party trick after being encouraged by coworkers to do so

They'll have no problem hiring, maybe one or two employees who deliver 10x will get demoralized and quit but this will not change a thing realistically re: their work force.

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Post by stavros »

chrisldgk wrote: post #307
ionwake wrote: post #271

I know some of the younger folk may not realise reality is stranger than fiction, but I too have been on a "work mandated drink alchohol bus" where I remember even though I was young, I was terrified the whole time wondering why we were being forced to drink infront of C suite; forced on a hell ride through the black country ( Thats a region in England). One might think it was naive and odd for me as a young autistic…

I remember at the ad agency I used to work at (somewhere around 2018) we used to have a happy hour every Friday where from 5pm onwards all drinks (including booze) in the cafeteria were free, which led to people of all departments including C-Suite to get together and drink. I remember it as a good time though, I don’t remember anything ever happening that led to people having repercussions for employees. Then again,…

I've been to a work Christmas party where one of my coworkers got so drunk that she couldn't talk and kept grabbing my arm and walking with me. I don't drink at all, so it was a bit surreal, and, compared to Greeks, Brits are on just a whole other level on the normalisation of alcohol consumption.

Obviously there were no repercussions, and when I mentioned something the next day, I got "you're not supposed to talk about that stuff in the office", which was interesting context for me. The drunk colleague and I went on to become really good friends.

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Post by ionwake »

sEver_codEs wrote: post #412
ionwake wrote: post #271

I know some of the younger folk may not realise reality is stranger than fiction, but I too have been on a "work mandated drink alchohol bus" where I remember even though I was young, I was terrified the whole time wondering why we were being forced to drink infront of C suite; forced on a hell ride through the black country ( Thats a region in England). One might think it was naive and odd for me as a young autistic…

Narrator: The CEO wasn't in fact, an "allright c*nt" after all.

I just laughed out loud on the train

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Post by ionwake »

gib444 wrote: post #294
ionwake wrote: post #271

I know some of the younger folk may not realise reality is stranger than fiction, but I too have been on a "work mandated drink alchohol bus" where I remember even though I was young, I was terrified the whole time wondering why we were being forced to drink infront of C suite; forced on a hell ride through the black country ( Thats a region in England). One might think it was naive and odd for me as a young autistic…

UK here too. I've seen so many people fired after a work event with a free bar I'm starting to wonder if it's an HR strategy (eg to weed out the cocky sales people who would end up embarrassing the company. It's a trial run for late nights with clients) > NOT a social function, but a horrifying legal flexing of soft hierarchical power, for purposes of satiating C suite ego, and humiliating everyone beneath them. Very…

First compliment in living memory on HN thank you

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Post by busyant »

rdtsc wrote: post #56

> Adam Mendler, a workplace expert, told Inc. that this kind of exercise carries real risk when companies invite openness without ever clarifying how that vulnerability will be treated afterward. I always felt that those trust exercises, "bring your whole self to work", "let us pay for a personality test so we can know each other better" are all ruses to find the most gullible people and then take advantage of them o…

I don't have any shocking story, but I also was once made to participate in a day long group bonding exercise.

one activity was for each member of our department to grade the overall "personality" of our department using several personality dimensions (e. g., kindness, competitiveness, etc.)

what I think i learned was that each of us projected our dominant personality traits onto the whole group.

eg, the hyper competitive climber said our department was cutthroat.

the guy who avoided conflict said it was a happy department with few disagreements.

etc.

beyond that insight, I didn't learn much.

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