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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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So you can mentally separate the price the vendor charges from taxes imposed by the state when you pick up in the store but not when ordering internationally?

It’s not an international purchase, though. Core Devices is a US company.

American components, russian components, all are made in Taiwan...

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Not a great fitness tracker because it has no GPS Poor notification integration because of the restrictions on iOS explained in their blog post. If you want long battery life, I’d go for a Garmin. But the Apple Watch is really the best option for 90% of people.

Pebble is really cool.

But would I pay $225 for a Core Time 2 when I could get a Garmin Forerunner 55?

Probably not. But still, it's amazing that we are getting new Pebble watches.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I'm pleased the pricing is so low. I did some math and if they're making 10k of these (not clear if that's each or all together), there's not a ton of money to be made. Assuming $100 average profit, that's a $2M for 20k watches. Given the work opportunities that the founder and other employees have, that's not a lot of money for them to make in a year, and it comes with significant risk. Basically seems like this is…

Do NOT forget the (optionnal) monthly subscription fees :)

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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MSRP of 3x COGS is a pretty common rule of thumb for hardware. Have to leave room for distribution, software, R&D, returns, SG&A, etc. End of the day, it's probably still only 30-40% gross margin -- less than half of a good SaaS company. Hardware is (indeed!) hard.

But then how could you call that 100 profit in any way? If you made at most like 30-50?

Root post is taking about an upper bound, not about a precise guess. Context is what makes 100 a more fitting number than 40.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Why was that frame choosen over the other ones? I fee PTR and PTS where by far the most modern looking and beautiful ones. Do you consider bringing that pebble 2 back with the same look?

PS: Pebble owner and daily user since more than 5 years here

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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> more minimal and sleek body I don't think that this should be trying to compete head-on with existing smartwatches on styling. And for the purposes of a hackable device, a larger screen seems like a selling point. Also, the larger screen makes touchscreen features more usable.

Agreed with respect to size and the touchscreen which I do think is a great addition. I just think something that's more of a continuation of the Time series designs would be better fitting for a $200+ option. The Time 2 body which would have had the exact same screen would be fine by me.

100percent - that is the single thing holding me back to preorder. The time 2 body would be an instant buy.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Same. It neither describes the product nor makes it easier to search for online. For that matter, it doesn't exactly roll of the tongue either...

They knew what they were doing.

And I think it's brilliant: it says "ca 2010 technology, the good parts". Technically, it's not exactly correct (according to Wikipedia Core 2 was discontinued a year before the Pebble launched), but it's one of the few lasting iconic names from that era in technology that aren't Apple. RePebble playing with that reference is exactly the same pattern as xyz-90 letter combinations reminiscent of audio cassette blanks popping up all over the music industry when the 80ies revival was in bloom.

Will it eventually end in a "we got sued by Intel!" marketing gambit? Certainly a possibility. Is assume they have played through both scenarios.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

Not sure if you’ll see this but I’l love to understand - why the slightly weird (to me) differentiation between the two models’ sensors? One has heart rate (which might be considered almost fundamental for smart watches today), the other has magnetic/barometric sensors (which are very nice to have when out and moving)… but neither has both? Is the core 2 duo a “geeky” watch and the other one a “premium” product? I assume the latter also doesn’t support JTAG fiddling around, is that a philosophical choice or more of an engineering time/resource constraint? Thanks in any case, these devices are definitely quite tempting!

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I'm highly skeptical that they will sell 20k units at that price point.

I know that the diabetic community are extremely interested on these watches. 30 days of battery life, already working support for Android APS and xDrip with these watches. What is there not to like. Put one of these to your child's wrist and they can get alerts on the glucose level easily.

Glucose levels were my first thought as well.
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