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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by novok »

Ataraxiaist wrote: post #373
ilamont wrote: post #97

How many more pleas like this will we see on HN? Or, hear from friends, colleagues, and relatives who have been locked out or denied access to an important service, either through no fault of their own or by an innocent action? No warning. No explanation other than "suspicious activity" or "violation of [vaguely worded] policy." No human to call who can help troubleshoot, other than a tech-savvy friend or relative. N…

The current alternative to me is a form of digital Epicureanism or digital Stoicism in the sense of intentionally not putting any effort into any kind of online digital presence or content creation. I don't remember anyone being upset if they changed emails and started posting on usenet from a different email address. The discussion at hand was what was important. People are ultimately causing themselves all this str…

It's not about your posting identity, but missing important communications that was sent to an old address. Now your email is your authentication second factor in many cases, it's also lockout prevention.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by arendtio »

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #182
jjcm wrote: post #113

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It'd be interesting what a technology bill of rights looks like, but one form I could easily support would be saying any account that acts as an identity provider (i.e. oauth) requires a judge ruling to be deleted. It'd require additional identification measures to prevent spam upon creation, but the tradeoffs might be worth it. One of the larger impacts of having your gmail deleted is how many other services likely…

Yep, effectively Gmail is your internet driver license.

I would say Gmail is your auto pilot. If you have an internet driver license, you know how to operate your own mailserver ;-)

Note: Yes it ain't easy and it ain't fun, just like driving a car during rush hour.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by ehsankia »

kitd wrote: post #296
ehsankia wrote: post #274

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I'm not sure what the situation described above has to do with Gmail and migrating off of it. OP was storing hundreds of videos, probably against Youtube ToS, to run their business. Pretty sure unlisted videos can't run ads either, so they were basically using Youtube as a free hosting service for their business.

1. Why would hundreds of unlisted videos be against the ToS? 2. OP didn't say the videos contained ads. And why can't unlisted videos contain ads anyway? 3. YT weren't complaining about ads anyway. It was "cyberbullying" in one video.

> Why would hundreds of unlisted videos be against the ToS?

It's most likely against ToS if you use said videos in a commercial way. Youtube isn't your companies private video hosting service.

> OP didn't say the videos contained ads.

No, but they were used to run their business. So it was commercial in nature.

> And why can't unlisted videos contain ads anyway?

Mostly a quirk of how Youtube works.

> And why can't unlisted videos contain ads anyway?

Looks like I was wrong about this one, sorry. It does seem like unlisted videos can indeed run ads. That being said, it still seems like a bad idea to run company crucial part of your business off of a free ad-based service.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by devwastaken »

oezi wrote: post #286
devwastaken wrote: post #195

Had something similar happen years ago. 3x bogus copyright strikes and the entire channel was removed. Can't appeal. Even big content creators get bogus strikes, but they have representatives or something that dispute it with YouTube. Don't use YouTube for anything important.

Why can't you appeal? Did you get a lawyer?

The cost of a lawyer is far too high. When you appeal you are legally saying that their dmca is false. Typically by this time the company will back off, or, they won't, and now your only choice is to persue it in civil court and prove their dmca was false. Or, the company can even come after you for falsely saying that their dmca was false.

It's not worth it. It's like civil asset forfeiture. The cost of getting back what was illigally seized is higher than the worth of it. In both time and money.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by kortilla »

Daishiman wrote: post #127
doctor_eval wrote: post #101

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I saw the end result of this, after working on a proposal for a large Australian city council. After the presentation, I was told that while our ideas were awesome, unfortunately we were too small (ca. 15 people). We would have to have partnered with a large consultant (IBM was mentioned), or we would not be invited to continue our work. We were told explicitly that this was because council needed someone big enough…

Sure it does; your 15 person company can go out of existence just by a fight between founders. Lead engineer gets run over by a bus and didn't document his work? You're done. Lose your other customer out of the 2 that were keeping you alive? You have to fire half of your staff. Whether the reason was made to justify the existence of some parasites doesn't change the fact that it's a real reason. A company that's been…

> company that's been in business for over a century isn't going to go out in a year

Lehman Brothers was around for 158 years and it imploded in much less than a year.

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Post by WalterBright »

Ekaros wrote: post #383
iforgotpassword wrote: post #339

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I second this. I can't fathom that on HN of all sites people recommend renting backup space from the same big tech companies that continuously fuck over people. Setting up a NAS is not magic. Setting up two isn't either. Put one in you parents basement and check on it once every year when you visit for Christmas. If you don't need 16TB go with an SSD (although with the current contamination situation not the best tim…

Don't even need to be NAS, couple external HDDs work as well. Add the new videos every month or something. Keep one at work and one at home. Or in some other place. Anyone not Gen Z should be entirely familiar with process of moving files between disks.

Yup. I just buy bare drives, and have a SATA-to-USB adapter, and away we go. Although I did write my own rsync clone program to do the work (it only copies changed files).

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Post by [deleted] »

pembrook wrote: post #180
Alex3917 wrote: post #175

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> it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address And then taking a week off of work so that I can change 672 passwords.

I thought it was going to be a huge hassle (I too imagined I had hundreds of accounts), but for me there were less than 30 accounts I actually cared about. Basically credit cards, banking, airlines, government services, social accounts, FAANG accounts, and domains/hosting. Annoying, but only took about an hour and a half. The rest that are non-important I'll just let languish in the Gmail account, assuming I'll be ab…

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