Video of Tesla FSD almost hitting pedestrian receives DMCA takedown

Post by rtkwe » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 9:41 PM UTC

toxik wrote: post #186

rtkwe wrote: post #181

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Cars are vastly more complex to do navigation for than planes too so we need to be even more careful when making auto autos. Plane autopilots are basically dealing with just the physical mechanics of flying the plane which while complex are quite predictable and modellable. All of the obstacle avoidance and collision avoidance takes place outside of autopilots through ATC and the routes are known and for most purpose…

Interesting point of view: autonomous cars as a form of contact-rich manipulation

Post by ra7 » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 9:53 PM UTC

Geee wrote: post #278

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> It doesn't have memory. It just makes decisions based on what it actually sees with its cameras. It doesn't trust maps, like most other systems. This is incorrect. Tesla also relies on maps for traffic signs, intersections, stop signs etc. They just don't have additional details like the others do. > After this situation is fixed, there will be an another edge case that the HN crowd panics over. Is anything Tesla F…

It's a specific edge case that the driver was testing. It has issues around those monorail pillars.

Post by joshuahaglund » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 10:35 PM UTC

misiti3780 wrote: post #244

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>> What if it's covered in mud, or snow? That's the entire problem. These systems don't understand anything about the world. If you see a sign covered in snow you're going to recognize it as such and make your best guess as to what it says and weather you care. You probably don't need that information to drive safely because you have a lot of knowledge to fall back on. These things dont, so some folks want to improve…

Right now, the TSLAs with FSD will disable it in snow+rain, so I assume that even if TSLA achieves L4, it will be only under ideal conditions until they have enough data to resolve these edge cases.

Post by foxfluff » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 11:14 PM UTC

phkahler wrote: post #223

cronix wrote: post #159

I think the whole dream/goal of building a self driving car on top of a system completely designed for manual human interpretation and input is asinine, and that's before you even consider the complexity of adding other humans manually driving or suddenly walking in front of your car from a blind spot. Instead of building a digital system from the ground up, we are forcing manufacturers to come up with tech to read s…

>> What if it's covered in mud, or snow? That's the entire problem. These systems don't understand anything about the world. If you see a sign covered in snow you're going to recognize it as such and make your best guess as to what it says and weather you care. You probably don't need that information to drive safely because you have a lot of knowledge to fall back on. These things dont, so some folks want to improve…

Post by kaba0 » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 11:35 PM UTC

Geee wrote: post #394

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Source on it saving anyone?

"In the 1st quarter, we registered one accident for every 4.19 million miles driven in which drivers had Autopilot engaged. For those driving without Autopilot but with our active safety features, we registered one accident for every 2.05 million miles driven. For those driving without Autopilot and without our active safety features, we registered one accident for every 978 thousand miles driven. By comparison, NHTS…