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Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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Post by manuelabeledo »

InvaderFizz wrote: post #5

This is the only part of the article that matters, and even it is a stretch: > Just a month after Sundar Pichai announced Google’s plan to cut 12,000 jobs around the world in January, the company filed applications for H1B visas to hire software engineers, analytical consultants, user experience researchers and other roles from outside the United States, with several requests aimed for new Google employees to join in…

This article, and the one it is based on, is just rage bait. Sadly, this topic specifically works really well in HN.

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Post by cannabis_sam »

Non-unionized tech workers finally facing the music…

The smart ones know what to do, hopefully they will be a majority against the ones indoctrinated into right wing market fundamentalism.

In any case, the unionization issue will sort itself out eventually, when the spoiled assholes are no longer in the industry, but damn it’s probably gonna be painful for a while.

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Post by Zetice »

nec4b wrote: post #395
Zetice wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's meant to determine which people have agreed to the social contract. Citizenship is not some sacred thing you must earn; simply agreeing to give up some freedom is all it takes to benefit from the social programs offered by a government. The bureaucratic concept of "citizenship" is just a way for people to construct barriers of hate around the benefits offered by a nation while still forcing people to accept…

Are you putting other people before your family, friends or neighbors?

My family and neighbors aren’t occupying 3.7 million square miles and aren’t numbered in the hundreds of millions, so the analogy does not hold.

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Post by manuelabeledo »

hankchinaski wrote: post #32

I’m not familiar with the US visa rules, but aren’t companies supposed to demonstrate that they can’t source talent domestically before bringing people in on visas? This seems odd and damaging to the US economy. And I say this as a non-US person

> I’m not familiar with the US visa rules

No worries. If this thread has proven anything, that would be that not even Americans know, but they sure love a good flame bait.

Jokes aside, what you just said is absolutely correct and it is indeed how it works in the US. I'm an immigrant myself, and that was part of the process. Most people complaining about how this "hurts" Americans, are, unknowingly I hope, echoing the same xenophobic slogans we have been hearing for a couple decades now.

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Post by david38 »

cannabis_sam wrote: post #402

Non-unionized tech workers finally facing the music… The smart ones know what to do, hopefully they will be a majority against the ones indoctrinated into right wing market fundamentalism. In any case, the unionization issue will sort itself out eventually, when the spoiled assholes are no longer in the industry, but damn it’s probably gonna be painful for a while.

This is almost laughable.

A massive chunk of big tech exists to put others out of business, and by extension, out of jobs.

Simplest case: how many companies used to employ a team to administer their MS email solution? Outlook was once very dominant. I know my university did. Then places started jumping to Gmail because it saved money and was more reliable. You didn’t have to just trust your small onsite team.

Those jobs were cut. Yes, they found other employment usually, but that’s because of the relentless growth of tech.

A strong union would have done what? Prevented the switch to gmail?

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Post by bigzyg33k »

slim wrote: post #394
resolutebat wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but many Chinese engineers have such a low level of proficiency that they genuinely struggle to communicate in spoken English. Pronunciation/accent can also be a major barrier to comprehension.

how can they write code ? real question

Do you seriously believe nobody in the non English speaking world can write code?

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

rayiner wrote: post #302
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a completely different experience. My (Indian) manager told me I couldn't be let go because it would make the team entirely Indian :) Apart from that, I found it much easier to work with H1B colleagues than with entitled and full of ego "native" Americans.

Yeah, the ego and entitlement of people living in their native country who can’t be sent back at a moment’s notice.

more like "everyone gets a prize" mentality.

Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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Post by cvccvroomvroom »

Of course. Money Hoovering megacorps gonna megacorp. I had an H-1B boss at Meta before layoffs. They didn't lay off the non-engineer workers who sat around the office and socialized all day... hot seat rto bullshit.

The main way out is worker-owned co-ops.

Re: Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs

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Post by Zetice »

HAL3000 wrote: post #393
Zetice wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My view is not optimistic, it's reflective of reality.

This viewpoint appears somewhat naive and unrealistic. It's important to consider that there are literally billions of people who might be willing to make certain sacrifices and agree, or at least pretend to agree, to a social contract just to migrate to the US. What would happen in such a scenario? Society could collapse. To get a clearer perspective on this, it's worth examining what started happening in the Europe…

Society would not even come close to collapsing, that is unrealistic.
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