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>> At a meeting in Brussels, the leaders of the 27 member states also told EU airlines not to fly over Belarus, and promised further economic sanctions.
not to fly over Belarus != not to fly to Belarus
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In Australia, it's currently a crime for citizens to leave without a permit. The system for permits is quite arbitrary, with some reporting approvals in minutes, and others reporting rejections without reason. It is worth noting that a recent survey showed a vast majority of Australians preferring closed borders as we have been relatively unscathed from COVID.
> In Australia, it's currently a crime for citizens to leave without a permit. As long as a country allows a citizen to leave, it doesn't matter if it's also against local laws. It simply means that the person should expect punishment if they were to ever return.
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Russia and Belarus are very close allies. I doubt anyone who is at risk by transiting in Moscow would be safe in Minsk
You think Russia would risk having their planes banned all through Europe to give a two bit dictator a reporter?
Who wins? Who flinches first?
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In Australia, it's currently a crime for citizens to leave without a permit. The system for permits is quite arbitrary, with some reporting approvals in minutes, and others reporting rejections without reason. It is worth noting that a recent survey showed a vast majority of Australians preferring closed borders as we have been relatively unscathed from COVID.
I'm not sure how allowing people to leave is a covid risk.
Additionally, there aren’t many commercial flights right now, resulting in the government needing to supplement these with charter flights (but needing to balance this with not further overloading quarantine facilities). Some people have been waiting six months or more to find a flight home or to get onto a charter flight. There are constant news stories about desperate people who are trapped with no way to fly back.
So, the government has decided you need a permit to leave, either stating you have no intention to return in the medium-term, need to leave for compassionate reasons, or have an urgent need to travel.
I entirely disagree with the policy. People should be free to leave, but then if they can’t find a flight home, that’s their issue.
However, the government seems concerned about the optics of seeing people on the nightly news, crying that the government won’t give them a seat on a charter flight.
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Target the elite instead of the people
The elite have already been forbidden from entering or doing business with the EU since November.
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It is one. The majority of migrants, qualified or not, have a hard time getting work permits. Finding work, low paid but paid, isn't the main challenge. Doesn't do any good if you aren't allowed to take that work so. Also, our social systems are doing well. Thanks for worrying.
"our social systems are doing well" If you include pension systems, not so much. "Altersarmut" ("poverty of the old age") was not a widely used word in the 1990s, now it is a frequent topic in German media. In many other European countries, old people live in their own properties with mortgages long paid off, so they aren't directly touched by rent increases. But Germans, for some reason, mostly like to live in rente…
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> socials that are working with cops ... whatsapp WhatsApp?
I've checked again, and most posts about fines\arrests that i was able to find were related to screenshots of groupchats, and no data requests were done to whatsapp itself. My bad. Viber worked actively with cops while their head office was in Minsk, even after Rakuten acquisition. VK, and other companies that are located in Russia, especially those that are owned by mail.ru group, are actively working with cops.
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Not sure how Emirates are relevant, that airline is from the UAB so can't really control their actions exactly. But when it comes to Lufthansa (since they are German), seems unlikely they'll be able to use Lufthansa as using the airspace of Belarus was just advised against... From the same link as before (give it a read: https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021... ) > calls on all EU-based carrier…
It doesn't matter, they’ll use private jets. You are trying to argue with the little details and missing the whole point. It will not hurt the elites. In the most worst case (if every EU airline will decide to not serve Belarusians), they’ll fly to Russia first and use some russian plane. Or just will use a car - what a tragedy, lol. And it's the ONLY response from EU leaders. Pathetic cowards. Lukashenko now got con…
Closed airspace means closed airspace. That's not only applicable for commercial flights.
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Ok, I'll explain the difference. The lockdown in Germany overwhelmingly has the support of the population. If this was not the case, you would expect to see the politicians and parties that instigated the lockdowns severely punished for it in upcoming elections, but that won't happen. It's not a significant issue in the elections. Once the pandemic passes, the restrictions will be lifted. No permanent changes to the…
> The lockdown in Germany overwhelmingly has the support of the population. Fundamental rights are not supposed to be subject to majority approval. I might be in the minority, but I would still like to leave my house after 22:00 without risking arrest. But this discussion is pointless. If you seriously believe that e.g. what is being done to Julian Assange has anything to do with an independent judicial system, there…