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Zoom fatigue unpacked

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Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#41
Maybe it's obvious, but I find resizing the window much smaller helps a lot with the close eye contact thing. Slack's huddles are good for this — their UI seems to be designed to be a small thing in the corner while you're doing other stuff.

I also used to find it disconcerting watching some YouTubers film themselves with their face taking up the entire screen. I must have got used to that though as I've not noticed it in a while.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

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I turn my camera off on big calls and it helps a bunch, there's a process running in the back of my mind when it's on that is constantly screening what I am doing just incase it looks stupid on camera. It feels like being in a panopticon. You never know if someone is looking. It's very tiring. I don't have the same issue in person because you know when people are looking at you in person and there's heaps of context…

I discovered the same as well, highly recommend turning off the camera.

I do it very often because I often walk around my office or play with toys in my hands when I am collecting my thoughts or focusing on listening to people. Also help not feeling the urge to multitask and do other things on the computer.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

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post #9

I turn my camera off on big calls and it helps a bunch, there's a process running in the back of my mind when it's on that is constantly screening what I am doing just incase it looks stupid on camera. It feels like being in a panopticon. You never know if someone is looking. It's very tiring. I don't have the same issue in person because you know when people are looking at you in person and there's heaps of context…

Sometimes on a call where I'm familiar with everyone, I'll pretend my internet connection is being flaky and ask everyone to turn cameras off. I'm well aware I can just turn incoming video off, but most people aren't.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

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One thing I also noticed is that good audio quality really improves things. Even if the current audio quality doesn't consciously register as bad, low quality leads to much more exhaustion over a longer period of time. This can be observed when someone switches from a bad internal laptop mic to a high quality headset. The voice is so much more easy to listen to.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want you and everyone else to know that sometimes on large zoom calls I will "pin" one person in the call and stare at them for multiple minutes in a row on fullscreen. I do this all the time.

I do this too. I usually cycle through a few people if multiple people have their camera on. I also take snips and draw mustaches/glasses/graffiti on them in paint during really boring meetings.

It would be hilarious if you suddenly or accidentally shared the screen with that artwork ongoing

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#46

Of course, the elephant in the room is that people need to stop having so many meetings. Those of us who have been working remotely for a decade or more never had this problem - we use async communications, quick one-off calls when needed, and really never spent all our time in meetings. But when everyone moved to remote work a few years ago, this culture of meetings all day came up... and it still confuses me. It is…

From my experience, a "culture of meetings" was ever present when working at the office. It did not go away when everything went remote by necessity.

And now maybe the "original remote workers" are affected, too.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#47
I’ve personally opted to simply turn off my video in all calls and force them to be audio-only. I do this for the reasons in the OP but also to subtly encourage others to opt for audio-only and to make the space more equitable for all.

Sometimes I’m the only one without a video but it doesn’t seem to bother those I work with so I keep doing it. I find this to be best, tbh.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

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post #44

One thing I also noticed is that good audio quality really improves things. Even if the current audio quality doesn't consciously register as bad, low quality leads to much more exhaustion over a longer period of time. This can be observed when someone switches from a bad internal laptop mic to a high quality headset. The voice is so much more easy to listen to.

It's much more important to just ban Bluetooth. And also wired Jabra headsets that inexplicably still sound like Bluetooth. No more tin can sound, no more dropped words when someone starts talking. Yes, even an internal mic is better in this regard, though it will have problems with echo cancellation.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

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Of course, the elephant in the room is that people need to stop having so many meetings. Those of us who have been working remotely for a decade or more never had this problem - we use async communications, quick one-off calls when needed, and really never spent all our time in meetings. But when everyone moved to remote work a few years ago, this culture of meetings all day came up... and it still confuses me. It is…

Yep, I've been working remotely for 20 years and meetings have always been super rare.

We have better text-based work communication tools than ever, there are so few good justifications for getting large groups together at the same time.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#50

Of course, the elephant in the room is that people need to stop having so many meetings. Those of us who have been working remotely for a decade or more never had this problem - we use async communications, quick one-off calls when needed, and really never spent all our time in meetings. But when everyone moved to remote work a few years ago, this culture of meetings all day came up... and it still confuses me. It is…

Thanks for saying this. I’m strongly considering leaving a job primarily due to the meeting culture. It’s just incredibly wasteful. We can spend weeks talking about things I would have knocked out in days in a previous role.

Robustly challenge what you think are unwarranted meetings. Preface your input in meetings that are silly but still exist with "Hi, I'll keep this concise because I know everyone has a lot of work to do ...", make a habit of reconfirming the value and purpose of the remaining meetings. Make it normal for meetings to whither quickly when not vital.

I go further and simply don't attend meetings that lack an agenda or at the very least point out when there isn't one when the meeting starts.

I don't spend much time in meetings.

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