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Re: Uncensored Models

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Then there’s the crossover market, like naughty code completion or fantasy knowledge inference.

That one dirty line of code everyone is looking for...

All those people with an S&M kink for writing extra-verbose enterprise Java.

Re: Uncensored Models

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While I guess an uncensored language model could create something mildly illegal, an uncensored image model could probably generate highly illegal content. There is a trade-off between being uncensored and the (degree of) illegality of the content.

There is very little that is illegal to write down (with or without AI help) in most jurisdictions. Even things like threats, the crime is in the communication, not in writing the text. I can write down "Person X, I'm going to kill you dead" in my notebook as much as I want, as long as I don't communicate to anyone (i.e. threaten anyone, as opposed to writing down a threat in my personal papers). I'm very curious wha…

OP is talking about visual imagery, but even textual depictions may not be as legally safe as you think.

Further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_porn...

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While I guess an uncensored language model could create something mildly illegal, an uncensored image model could probably generate highly illegal content. There is a trade-off between being uncensored and the (degree of) illegality of the content.

There is very little that is illegal to write down (with or without AI help) in most jurisdictions. Even things like threats, the crime is in the communication, not in writing the text. I can write down "Person X, I'm going to kill you dead" in my notebook as much as I want, as long as I don't communicate to anyone (i.e. threaten anyone, as opposed to writing down a threat in my personal papers). I'm very curious wha…

Holocaust denial in Germany.

Re: Uncensored Models

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I feel like " Every demographic and interest group deserves their model" sounds a lot like a path to echo chambers paved with good intentions. People have never been very good at critical thinking, considering opinions differing from their own and reviewing their sources. Stick them in a language model that just tells them everything they want to hear and reinforces their bias sounds troubling and a step backwards.

>Stick them in a language model that just tells them everything they want to hear and reinforces their bias sounds troubling and a step backwards This is basically what ChatGPT already is for anyone who shares the Silicon Valley Democrat values of its creators.

Agreed, but I think the better response to this is: "We should try to create AIs that are aligned to society's shared values, not particular subcultures", and not "We should create subculture-specific AIs".

Re: Uncensored Models

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Probably lots of places, but certainly the USA, for instance.

Can you give an example of a piece of text that would be illegal to write (not transmit/communicate, just write) in the US?

Can you give an example of a piece of text that would be illegal to write (not transmit/communicate, just write) in China?

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Probably lots of places, but certainly the USA, for instance.

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Well, I mean, def not a fan of putting people to death for blasphemy, but... how does that make thinking of the US laws a "mistake"?

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I think it gives him most of the favors. Hard to argue against how popular works that have incredible violence are. Violence is an integral part of the fictional worlds authors build and our stories would be entirely different without it. Of course we want AIs that can engage with those topics. Your quote says "help with writing" but you couch it as generating "an endless stream". Why would you frame it that way? Com…

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>in a certain part of the world

What country's culture doesn't involve lots of violent stories? The Romance of the Three Kingdoms, The Bible, the Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita, Norse Mythology, the Odyssey, it's hard to think of any famous work of ancient literature that doesn't involve a nontrivial amount of violence.

Re: Uncensored Models

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It's unfortunate that this guy was harassed for releasing these uncensored models. It's pretty ironic, for people who are supposedly so concerned about "alignment" and "morality" to threaten others. "Alignment", as used by most grifters on this train, is a crock of shit. You only need to get so far as the stochastic parrots paper, and there it is in plain language. "reifies older, less-inclusive 'understandings'", "v…

> and perhaps less about how the output of some predictions might hurt some feelings.

Given how easy "hurt feelings" escalate into real-world violence (even baseless rumors have led to lynching murder incidents [1]), or the ease with which anyone can create realistically-looking image of anything using AI, yes, companies absolutely have an ethical responsibility about the programs, code and generated artifacts they release and what potential for abuse they have.

And on top of that, companies also have to account for the potential of intentional trolling campaigns. Deepfake porn using the likeness of a celebrity? Deepfake media (pictures, porn, and now audio) alleging that a politician has had sexual encounters with minors? AI-generated audio comments suggesting a politician made racially charged remarks that spark violent unrest?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_WhatsApp_lynchings

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