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Not everyone is on Steam. Everyone I know still buys from retail, as they care to have something physical. Also UWP has the XBOX titles, and if Microsoft really wanted they could just pull all their titles out of Steam, assuming whatever contracts they have in place make it possible.
> Everyone I know still buys from retail It would seem that "Everyone" you know is not a very representative sample then.
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#42It really sucks that Dvxk has to warn against the dangers of using it for online gaming: "Manipulation of Direct3D libraries in multi-player games may be considered cheating and can get your account banned. This may also apply to single-player games with an embedded or dedicated multiplayer portion. Use at your own risk."
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Steam doesn't play ball with the Microsoft app-store that UWP insists on. That's pretty much a game-over for UWP in the gaming world.
Not everyone is on Steam. Everyone I know still buys from retail, as they care to have something physical. Also UWP has the XBOX titles, and if Microsoft really wanted they could just pull all their titles out of Steam, assuming whatever contracts they have in place make it possible.
1: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/oliverchia...
2: https://www.statista.com/statistics/190225/digital-and-physi...
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And they're going to keep trying until it finally sticks. It's like Palladium or the Scientology Fair Game policy: just because people don't like it doesn't make it not critical to the organization. They just have to backpedal publicly to re-establish good PR, then sneak it in quietly while people's guard is down.
Microsoft isn't Apple. Their entire business relies on retaining as much backwards compatibility as possible Every time they make any sort of major, sweeping change. They get raked over coals until they're charred to a god damn crisp When Windows went from the old DOS-ish 95/98/ME to the much more stable NT based 2000 and XP, lots of things broke. XP only survived the Microsoft EOL chopping block because of the rise…
And that's just the problem, innit. The App Store is making Windows irrelevant. Apple also has a FAR better security story, and part of it is because they whitelist everything that runs on their flagship devices.
Microsoft tried to do the same thing with Windows RT and Windows Phone. Didn't work. They were forced to backpedal, but they're not about to give up on making Windows Store the centerpiece of the Windows experience, and sideline, marginalize, and limit the capabilities of Win32 on the Microsoft platform -- "for security purposes" of course. Eventually, Win32 stuff will still run, but heavily sandboxed and unable to take advantage of cutting edge features of the Windows OS (HoloLens? Cortana? The database file system they've put off implementing for so long?). It could be that Windows 11 uses HyperV to run a Windows 7 instance for legacy apps while new stuff -- including support for newer graphics cards/GPUs -- must be compiled against UWP in order to run on the main kernel instance.
Re: Dvxk: A Vulkan-Based D3D11 Implementation for Linux with Wine
#45It really sucks that Dvxk has to warn against the dangers of using it for online gaming: "Manipulation of Direct3D libraries in multi-player games may be considered cheating and can get your account banned. This may also apply to single-player games with an embedded or dedicated multiplayer portion. Use at your own risk."
Ah yes! You could make it draw walls as semi-transparent to see opponents through them!
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Except Microsoft is not Apple and even Apple did not nearly succeed in getting developers to use their App Store on the desktop. They did get developers to use Cocoa but that is clearly much better than Carbon and Apple worked hard to make it do everything Carbon does. The selling point for developing on Windows is that you can mostly do anything and the Store is a sandbox. Developers aren’t going to want to get into…
Apple and Google together have abandoned more tech than Microsoft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Microsof...
there's also:
Groove Streaming Music
Microsoft Office Groove
Access Services for SharePoint Online
Microsoft Continuum
Skype for Business
Kinect Adapter
Microsoft Band
Xbox One TV DVR
Kinect Xbox One
Kinect Windows
Wunderlist
Sunset
Games for Windows
Silverlight
Zune
Kin
XNA
PlaysForSure
Flight Sim
Expression Suite
SteadyState
Windows RT
Windows Phone 10
Windows Phone 8.1
Windows Phone 7
Forefront
Front Page
Money
Please add any that Wikipedia and I have missed.Re: Dvxk: A Vulkan-Based D3D11 Implementation for Linux with Wine
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Apple and Google together have abandoned more tech than Microsoft.
Citation please. I believe Microsoft is the king of abandoned tech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Microsof... there's also: Groove Streaming Music Microsoft Office Groove Access Services for SharePoint Online Microsoft Continuum Skype for Business Kinect Adapter Microsoft Band Xbox One TV DVR Kinect Xbox One Kinect Windows Wunderlist Sunset Games for Windows Silverlight Zune Kin XNA PlaysForSure…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Forefront_Threat_Man...
Good riddance.
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Citation please. I believe Microsoft is the king of abandoned tech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Microsof... there's also: Groove Streaming Music Microsoft Office Groove Access Services for SharePoint Online Microsoft Continuum Skype for Business Kinect Adapter Microsoft Band Xbox One TV DVR Kinect Xbox One Kinect Windows Wunderlist Sunset Games for Windows Silverlight Zune Kin XNA PlaysForSure…
Looks the lists are missing at least Microsoft Forefront: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Forefront_Threat_Man... Good riddance.
Microsoft Forefront Threat Management Gateway
Microsoft Forefront Unified Access Gateway
Microsoft Forefront Identity Manager
Microsoft Proxy Server
Windows Essential Business Server
Microsoft Robotics Developer Studio
Microsoft BackOffice Server
Content Management Server
Microsoft SNA Server
Microsoft Site Server
Microsoft Merchant Server
Microsoft Groove Server
System Center Capacity Planner
Microsoft Commerce Server
Microsoft SharePoint Workspace
Microsoft InfoPath
Microsoft Office Document Imaging
Microsoft Office Document Scanning
Microsoft PhotoDraw 2000
Microsoft Photo Editor
Microsoft Schedule Plus
Microsoft Virtual PC
Microsoft Vizact 2000
Microsoft Data Analyzer 2002
Microsoft Ofice Assistant
Microsoft SharePoint Designer
Microsoft Office InterConnect
Microsoft Office Picture Manager
Microsoft Entourage
Microsoft Office Forms Server:
Microsoft Office Project Portfolio Server
Microsoft Office PerformancePoint Server
Office Live Small Business
Office Live Workspace
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple and Google together have abandoned more tech than Microsoft.
Citation please. I believe Microsoft is the king of abandoned tech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Microsof... there's also: Groove Streaming Music Microsoft Office Groove Access Services for SharePoint Online Microsoft Continuum Skype for Business Kinect Adapter Microsoft Band Xbox One TV DVR Kinect Xbox One Kinect Windows Wunderlist Sunset Games for Windows Silverlight Zune Kin XNA PlaysForSure…
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Citation please. I believe Microsoft is the king of abandoned tech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Microsof... there's also: Groove Streaming Music Microsoft Office Groove Access Services for SharePoint Online Microsoft Continuum Skype for Business Kinect Adapter Microsoft Band Xbox One TV DVR Kinect Xbox One Kinect Windows Wunderlist Sunset Games for Windows Silverlight Zune Kin XNA PlaysForSure…
I don’t think Skype for Business and Wunderlist have been discontinued. But my comment was more about things like ‘PlaysForSure,’ Silverlight and Windows Phone. It’s not really that big a problem they discontinued Space Cadet.
FWIW:
"Microsoft is going all in on Teams and plans to phase out Skype for Business"
https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/25/microsoft-is-going-all-in-...