Does anyone understand the decision to not left align the esc "key"?
I believe the screen simply doesn't extend that far to the left (although the touch-sensitive bezel does).
A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
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#42The person who reviewed this may have been a programmer, but the review doesn't seem to be in context of programming. I care about how well I can work on it, not now well it works with remotes. > The MacBook Pro is more an evolutionary than a revolutionary upgrade over my MacBook Air. That seems to sum up this review. The macbook pro is a successor to the air, not the old macbook pro.
How is a large 15" laptop with a discrete GPU a successor to the MacBook Air? The problem I have with that statement is that "the MBP" is an ambiguous term. It's a product lineup, and there are products in that lineup that are not in any way the successor to the Air.
It is quite hard to make a "Pro" machine targeted at professionals with a product line up of 4 laptop (and maybe 4 laptop total in the whole Mac line) with very little configuration options.
That's the most obvious conclusion of all those MBP review and comment. Apple just serve a small slice of the consumer market that intersect a narrow slice of the professional market. That narrow slice just gets smaller with each major iteration and Apple is not sad about it.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just for the record, I use vim all the time on the new MBP and don't have any issues. I remapped Esc in vim ages ago, though. vim was not designed around the current placement of the Esc key.
What do you use in its stead?
For the past year or so I've been using the key sequence "fd", which I discovered from spacemacs. (I've actually copied a lot of spacemacs keybindings because I found them very ergonomic.)
Re: A Programmer Evaluates the MacBook Pro (Touch Bar)
#44The person who reviewed this may have been a programmer, but the review doesn't seem to be in context of programming. I care about how well I can work on it, not now well it works with remotes. > The MacBook Pro is more an evolutionary than a revolutionary upgrade over my MacBook Air. That seems to sum up this review. The macbook pro is a successor to the air, not the old macbook pro.
How is a large 15" laptop with a discrete GPU a successor to the MacBook Air? The problem I have with that statement is that "the MBP" is an ambiguous term. It's a product lineup, and there are products in that lineup that are not in any way the successor to the Air.
That's fair. I was particularly referring to the 13", and more so referring to how the article specifically was in context of someone switching from an air to the pro. They all seem to have gone the route of thinner and sexier while sacrificing "proness," though.
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#45The Pro in Macbook Pro does not stand for "programmer". The device is not catering to the past. The world is not full of UNIX era programmers. Some future programmers are getting their first laptop during the coming holidays. If you think Esc then I is the future of programming tools, I don't know what to tell you.
Vi is not just the past. It remains one of the best ways to edit text, period. And it will probably continue this way long into the future. Why do you think so many IDEs come with vim emulation?
Ctrl-C is equivalent to pressing Esc in Vim and you don't have to move your hand so much.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vi is not just the past. It remains one of the best ways to edit text, period. And it will probably continue this way long into the future. Why do you think so many IDEs come with vim emulation?
Popularity isn't really a good argument. It could either be because it's a good way to edit text, or because of inertia and extreme conservative nature of developers.
I made no claim about popularity. I did make a claim about productivity. Big difference.
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#48The person who reviewed this may have been a programmer, but the review doesn't seem to be in context of programming. I care about how well I can work on it, not now well it works with remotes. > The MacBook Pro is more an evolutionary than a revolutionary upgrade over my MacBook Air. That seems to sum up this review. The macbook pro is a successor to the air, not the old macbook pro.
How is a large 15" laptop with a discrete GPU a successor to the MacBook Air? The problem I have with that statement is that "the MBP" is an ambiguous term. It's a product lineup, and there are products in that lineup that are not in any way the successor to the Air.
> How is a large 15" laptop with a discrete GPU a successor to the MacBook Air?
The article is talking about the 13": I’ve moved from a MacBook Air 13" to a MacBook Pro 13".
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What do you use in its stead?
For the past year or so I've been using the key sequence "fd", which I discovered from spacemacs. (I've actually copied a lot of spacemacs keybindings because I found them very ergonomic.)
Great tip! I've installed evil-escape in my emacs and now have the same binding. Quite useful.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is a large 15" laptop with a discrete GPU a successor to the MacBook Air? The problem I have with that statement is that "the MBP" is an ambiguous term. It's a product lineup, and there are products in that lineup that are not in any way the successor to the Air.
It is quite hard to make a "Pro" machine targeted at professionals with a product line up of 4 laptop (and maybe 4 laptop total in the whole Mac line) with very little configuration options. That's the most obvious conclusion of all those MBP review and comment. Apple just serve a small slice of the consumer market that intersect a narrow slice of the professional market. That narrow slice just gets smaller with each…
I think this is an okay viewpoint, but it forces the conclusion that Apple has never made a Pro machine (because the MacBook Pro lineup has never had that many options and configurations). Personally I'm fine with that conclusion, but it's not consistent with the narrative that this is the first MacBook Pro which is not for professionals.