Makes me sad, because I can't make the jump until I know my banking and related essential apps will work.
Might be worth switching banks
GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
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Ha! Me too! Exact same. Bought a Pixel 10. Intended to do the default Android for a while. But it was filled with ads for “Wicked” which had me looking at my phone with a sneer on my face I couldn't erase - as if someone had smeared feces all over it and threw it on my bed. So I jumped straight to GrapheneOS, which was way easier and less extreme than I had been warned. So beautifully minimal, with no crap. Now my ph…
What about banking Apps? No problem there? Some of them have ridiculous secur... compliance rules.
In my experience: Everything™ works, except Google pay unfortunately.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#383But the we need a compact high-end phone for this.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#384I was using GrapheneOS for years, until the battery died while I was on an important call, trying to get someplace. Plugged it in, but little did I remember that I had installed OS update that was pending app optimization phase that happens during next boot. GrapheneOS has some hardening in this phase, which as I understand, essentially has to rebuild all apps without cache. And as I have a ton of apps, I was parked…
> GrapheneOS recommendation to this was to have fewer apps Sounds reasonable. People tend to install way too many apps on their phones and than blame the phone about short battery life or too many notifications.
Having many apps will not affect battery life on Android in any meaningful way. Actively using them will. Apps can't just sit there and run in background, unless you explicitly gave them that permission.
Android also takes permissions away from apps after they haven't been used in a while anyway.
So most of the battery consumption will be from the apps that you actively need and use. Android's battery usage screen backs this up.
The metro app I installed when I was on a trip in Istanbul is still on my phone, but it's dormant. Yes, I should definitely uninstall it, but I really can't be bothered to do this all the time. On stock Android, phone takes care of this for me. On GrapheneOS, either I take that responsibility or face the consequences - which I don't really want.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#385I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.
I want to run graphene but I make android apps and need to test on device with a somewhat standard setup… login with google, etc. is this reasonable to do with graphene?
Yes, GOS has excellent compatibility with Google. The play services are sandboxed like a normal app and work great.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
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What about banking Apps? No problem there? Some of them have ridiculous secur... compliance rules.
There is a list of compatible banking apps: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...
Big list, unfortunately one of my banks is not there (BCGE, Switzerland), most probably meaning I can't even login into ebanking in any other way since they have their properietary authentication app (CrontoSign, also not listed). Its rather small regional/cantonal bank so I get it, even though that region is Geneva, mecca of (some types of) banking.
Other banks that I use are there. Almost perfect...
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#387But the we need a compact high-end phone for this.
From two months ago:
In the USA, I think most people can easily afford a Pixel 9a at $56/year of device support starting from today. Calculator checks yearly cost based on device support: (https://ibb.co/xq82YQCw)
Sources for device lifetime from calculator: (https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime)
I used a New+Unlocked+Pixel+X on eBay to find a rough price of the phone.
Most people get scammed by their carrier and pay $25-45 per month just for their wireless subscription, and many more get caught up in the device bundles which gets you the "latest and greatest", at a huge price. So people are paying, per month, what you can pay, per year for a Pixel.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#388Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ha! Me too! Exact same. Bought a Pixel 10. Intended to do the default Android for a while. But it was filled with ads for “Wicked” which had me looking at my phone with a sneer on my face I couldn't erase - as if someone had smeared feces all over it and threw it on my bed. So I jumped straight to GrapheneOS, which was way easier and less extreme than I had been warned. So beautifully minimal, with no crap. Now my ph…
> it was filled with ads You bought a phone from an advertising company?
"Do you not?"
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#389Earlier quoted context omitted.
Graphene is NOT a jailbroken/rooted OS, its a real secure unrooted, bootloader locked OS, and MS Authenticotor works just fine. If anything does not work its related to dependency of the App maker on a certain attestation google play services grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide
Root =/= insecure. You probably have administrator access on your home computer operating system, and can very likely do online banking via the web browser with no issues. A secure API is possible regardless of the host metal, operating system, or user permissions.
Do you refer to app-accessible root or user root access? The former is absolutely inherently insecure and compromises the security model of Android/GOS.
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I agree and have moved mostly away from everything Google. But it's hard to replace maps. I know open street maps exists but it's hard to beat Google's data gathering.
I recommend Magic Earth. Free with traffic and navigation, and strong privacy promises (unlike Here Maps).
> I recommend Magic Earth.
LOL Bruh... this has a 1.7 rating on Android based on 42k reviews
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.generalmag...