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Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Post by deltoidmaximus »

khat wrote: post #212
Ritewut wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is so divorced from reality. It is very difficult to live life in the modern world without a phone unless you want to go Amish.

Not really. Rural America you don't need a mobile phone. I can go days without ever touching my phone. And if it wasn't for my bank, I wouldn't need it at all. Even then I could just go to the bank but I'm too lazy to do that.

The "I can't bank" complaint is strange to me. I've never done any banking on my phone, the closest is when paypal extorted a phone number out of me for SMS verification. I still do banking through web browser at home, for several different accounts. But maybe it's different outside of the US.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Post by Tangurena2 »

simulator5g wrote: post #330
hnav wrote: post #237

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There are zero days in every piece of software, but malware is already mostly a state-actor-only thing.

This is a hilarious take

The latest Miasma/Shai-Hulud worm will not run if your development system has KOI8-R (Russian) as the primary language.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOI8-R

> Kill switch, as always with APT28 malware, is setting the host language to ru_RU.KOI8-R (LANG environment variable). That disables the spread mechanism.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48460507

Note: KOI8-U is Ukrainian and would still trigger the worm/trojan/malware.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Post by Nasrudith »

grim_io wrote: post #65
brushfoot wrote: post #61

No more anonymous driving, thanks to Flock. Soon, no more anonymous calls, thanks to the FCC. Your bank already knows everything about you; why not your operating system, too? Soon your ISP will only let you online if your OS sends them the "right" information: your government ID. We should also abolish cash while we're at it. The government needs to know every purchase you've ever made, no exceptions. Of course, the…

Worse, we are becoming a burden. The Thiels of the world are already past wanting an obedient consumer. They don't need us for the utopia they imagine for themselves.

You're projecting harder than IMAX here with your conspiracy theory tropes. Remember it was the Bolsheviks who actually liquidated entire classes of people as 'useless parasites'.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Post by Tangurena2 »

pizzly wrote: post #298
jollymonATX wrote: post #267

We at some point will have to stop complying. Not because we are doing anything at all wrong, but because we cannot trust our govt and the corporations they are beholden to.

Having multiple needless laws is another way to control the population. Everyone will be violating at least one law. The government will then just enforce the laws on the people they don't like.

There is a book titled Three Felonies A Day that explains this. US Federal laws/regulations are so obtuse, over-reaching, arcane and complicated that the average innocent person violates 3 felonies per day. And your point about enforce the laws on the people they don't like is one that the author makes as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp...

A previous job of mine was software developer for a state motor vehicle agency. I had to read far too many state & federal laws/regulations to make the boat/vehicle registration system compliant.

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Post by Nasrudith »

fridder wrote: post #46
rusk wrote: post #34

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Hopefully they tax th bejeesus out of bullets too. Who was the comedian “imma gona pop a cap in yo ass, but first imma set up a layaway”

Chris Rock. And honestly probably the easiest way for gun control

Not really, at least with current SOTA for ammunition. Reloading has long been a thing for high volume shooters.

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Post by everdrive »

tumult wrote: post #380
everdrive wrote: post #217

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This is not meant as an argument or a counterpoint, I'm just not familiar with some of your examples. Would you be able to elaborate? >Scan this QR code to install the app to cross the border. Would this be a national border? I haven't traveled internationally for a while, but this would be quite troubling. >Install the app to board the bus. Is there no option to pay without an app? >Install the app to get your filin…

> Would this be a national border? I haven't traveled internationally for a while, but this would be quite troubling. Yes. > Is there no option to pay without an app? No option. > Surely the government also allows you to just call and get an update? The time I saw this, the non-app option was waiting in line for several hours.

Could you expand on this? What happens at the national border? What happens if your phone just won't do a QR code? I'm not arguing with you or disagreeing with, I'm just curious what the process is.

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Post by everdrive »

brewdad wrote: post #278
everdrive wrote: post #217

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This is not meant as an argument or a counterpoint, I'm just not familiar with some of your examples. Would you be able to elaborate? >Scan this QR code to install the app to cross the border. Would this be a national border? I haven't traveled internationally for a while, but this would be quite troubling. >Install the app to board the bus. Is there no option to pay without an app? >Install the app to get your filin…

I was required to install an app in order to enter and leave the Philippines. To my knowledge there was no other way to get the required approvals. My local system is completely cashless. You can pay by phone, credit card tap or with a reloadable transit card. To my knowledge, the only way to reload the card is to use their app or travel to a handful of authorized agents to have them reload your card. I can call my g…

>I was required to install an app in order to enter and leave the Philippines

That's good to know. Me and my family will definitely never be visting the philippines. My phone doesn't have mobile data enabled at the provider level. Would have been an award search for Wifi.

>My local system is completely cashless. You can pay by phone,

It's baffling to me that anyone would want to link payment to their phone. This is one of the least intelligent self-owns of the last decade.

>or I can install an app and have my issue resolved in a few minutes. Which option do you think most people choose?

I take your point but I'd say that most people don't put much value on their freedom if they'd trade it for a couple of hours of convenience.

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Post by rtkwe »

miohtama wrote: post #360
rtkwe wrote: post #236

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It is actually because you can't do anything with the source phone number being tied to an identity if the scammers are freely able to spoof the number that the end networks and users see. Even if every network in the world adopted this it wouldn't matter if caller id isn't fixed so that you can actually see the source number to go ask who it is!

You can. Finland forces operators to stop routing non-verified and spoofed numbers. Spam gone. https://www.tieto.com/en/cases/telecom/global-anti-fraud-mod...

Ok but that doesn't change the situation in the US where the law/rule is being proposed where we haven't done the same thing.
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