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FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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This is probably part of the larger scope of the system wanting to require ID to even boot a computer let alone connect to the internet.

It is. They want to monitor every second of our lives and put it through current computer systems and salivating on what they can glean from it in future generations of AI. All the bureaucrats and politicians crave is control over everything. No privacy is valued other than their own, and they will always use "think of the children" as an excuse.

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We at some point will have to stop complying. Not because we are doing anything at all wrong, but because we cannot trust our govt and the corporations they are beholden to.

These things are signs of surveillance economy which benefit very few.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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This has been the case for a long time in Switzerland. If you want a mobile phone SIM, you need to provide your ID. Of course easy if you have a national ID...

I don't see the issue here and I am surprised that this wasn't the case in the United States.

However since it is now trivial to communicate encrypted with so many other devices, I don't see the point now. This would have been a "good" thing back in the 90'.

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No more anonymous driving, thanks to Flock. Soon, no more anonymous calls, thanks to the FCC. Your bank already knows everything about you; why not your operating system, too? Soon your ISP will only let you online if your OS sends them the "right" information: your government ID. We should also abolish cash while we're at it. The government needs to know every purchase you've ever made, no exceptions. Of course, the…

Worse, we are becoming a burden. The Thiels of the world are already past wanting an obedient consumer. They don't need us for the utopia they imagine for themselves.

They want us replaced by machines that are 100% compliant slaves, they're hoping for AI with human capabilities (or better) and no will to pushback at their tyrannical natures.

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It was a terrible scattered movie, but they want Elysium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium_(film)

No, Elysium still had all the desperate poor people. That's not the end goal.

right, they definitely want depopulation down to the levels their paid hacks tell them is sustainable for a compliant population, "saving the earth", and continue to lives out as gods.

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The problem of citizens having anonymous internet connectivity.

That's an illusion. Two days of location data and you can pin down the owner pretty well. I thought about getting a SIM when Germany was about to introduce ID requirements. I quickly realized this being a moot point.

My burner would only be powered on for the duration of the call and the time to spin up gsm connectivity.

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True for most EU countries since a while - at the premium Telcos shops.

Not true in most EU countries if you just go into one of those shady shops nearby train station and ask friendly, while the shop is empty, if he could sell you a SIM thats already verified.

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> how much worse off would it be if we still "representatives per person" numbers from 1776 and had a Congress of many thousands? Isn't that actually a major cause of the trouble? You expect Congress to deal with more and more complexities but limit the number of people (i.e. experts) who are members of it, causing them all to be generalists and moreover to have to spend more of their time campaigning rather than deb…

>What advantage is there in giving the unelected bureaucrats the authority to change the rules without approval, except to Congress in dodging accountability for what happens? Why must congress do more? Most of this stuff would be state issues if not for the absurdity that is current commerce clause interpretation.

Making it a state issue does not answer the question of should everything be decided by laws, or should some be decided by regulations?

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Hardly disjoint. Most of the scams come from foreign networks.

It is actually because you can't do anything with the source phone number being tied to an identity if the scammers are freely able to spoof the number that the end networks and users see. Even if every network in the world adopted this it wouldn't matter if caller id isn't fixed so that you can actually see the source number to go ask who it is!

You can. Finland forces operators to stop routing non-verified and spoofed numbers. Spam gone.

https://www.tieto.com/en/cases/telecom/global-anti-fraud-mod...

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