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Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by s_dev »

petcat wrote: post #238
ta20240528 wrote: post #110

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Trying so hard to fend off Russia, but they can't put Taurus missiles on a truck and drive them to Kiev? Converting the Ford factory in Detroit into a tank factory is "trying hard".

USA has been strategically re-homing TSMC to the USA mainland for a long time now. 30% of TSMC's global production is scheduled to be produced in America by 2028. Several iPhone chips are already being produced domestically. This is what I would call "trying hard". Contrast with the EU which has done nothing to become self-reliant, and really just has no ideas. It is unfortunate.

>really just has no ideas

It has the Dragi Reforms.

https://commission.europa.eu/topics/competitiveness/draghi-r...

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by zwnow »

nec4b wrote: post #376
zwnow wrote: post #45

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>>Oh no some immigrant stole something out of my garden I thought it was more because of them driving over people at Christmas markets, forming rape gangs or stabbing random people on the streets. It's deep intellectually dishonesty like yours that is driving them to that "party". Which is a bit ironic isn't it?

If you really believe this you need help

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by TeMPOraL »

dspillett wrote: post #365
codyb wrote: post #321

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I'm not sure how your math stacks out... but 2/3rds of 330 million people is not 75 million votes. The fact is, the American electoral system is heavily stacked against the actual population due to... - Citizens United allows individuals with sums of wealth which are nearly incomprehensible to literally drop hundreds of millions of dollars on a single election and not even have a dent in net worth - The electoral col…

> but 2/3rds of 330 million people is not 75 million votes It was a remembered stat, and there were more than 75,000,000 who “ either directly voted for it or sat on their elbows and let it happen”. A quick check of official stats: The turnout of 64.1% and 49.1%/49.3%/1.9% “of the vote” figures means: ~32% rep ~31% dem ~ 1% other ~36% did not vote So 68% voted for it or sat on their elbows. Pretty close to my half-re…

The biggest problem here isn't the numbers, but the usual manipulative rhetoric of putting people who "voted for it" and those who "sat on their elbows" into the same bucket, to vilify them together.

I'll skip the philosophical argument for the absurdity of this view in general, because the numbers you provided speak even louder. Consider that both big parties got pretty much the same amount of votes[0] - so whether or not the 36% of population who didn't vote are seen as complicit villains, depended on how a different 0.5% of the population (or 0.15% of the voters) voted!

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[0] - I'd argue that 0.2% difference is within margin of statistical error, but that's a whole other discussion.

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by schubidubiduba »

nradov wrote: post #293
atwrk wrote: post #209

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no it means u_sama has (correctly, IMO) observed that the US has made it very clear in the past year that they don't regard the EU as an ally. I mean the openly talk about annexing EU territory right now .

Which EU territory would that be? If you're referring to Greenland, it's actually not part of the EU.

Why do you make such a pointless distinction in the context of this argument?

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by fsflover »

BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #356
fsflover wrote: post #347

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> Android is a solid basis for a homegrown solution. Except all proprietary drivers tying you to an ancient Linux kernel and preventing upgrades of the OS.

That is not a problem of Android but of the hardware and funnily enough much of that is not produced in the US. I think we could cobble together a working phone in a short time and iterate upon that if it is necessary. Hardware has advanced sufficiently that we don't need the latest greatest to have an okay experience.

> I think we could cobble together a working phone in a short time and iterate upon that if it is necessary.

You drastically underestimate how complicated it will be. Here is one attempt: https://puri.sm/posts/breaking-ground/

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by [deleted] »

graemep wrote: post #206
wongarsu wrote: post #129

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The EU is slowly weakening Google's grasp on Android, for example by evening the playing field for app stores. You can get google-free Android devices from both Chinese manufacturers and the Netherlands (Fairphone). They aren't terribly attractive right now, but that could quickly change if the demand exists At that point Google would probably turn even more hostile to the open source nature of Android, leading to so…

Google is tightening their grip on Android. They are going to effectively kill of alternative app stores by requiring them to use Google's developer verification (there have been discussions on HN before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45569371 ). Many countries are introducing things such as age verification and ID apps that require Google Android. A lot of bank apps will only work with Google Android. This is…

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Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by schubidubiduba »

embedding-shape wrote: post #354
kergonath wrote: post #243

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> I think if Greenland was actually part of Denmark, it too would be part of EU, as I don't think you can selectively "unmark" specific territories in a country to not be in EU if the country itself is in EU. Yes, you can. Plenty of overseas territories span the complete gamut between autonomous regions outside the EU and overseas EU regions. Each one is a special case and has specific reasons why there are inside or…

Maybe I worded it poorly, or someone of us must misunderstand something. Are you saying there are regions that are outside of Europe-the-continent, but that are a part of EU, as it belongs to a country that is within EU too? Which one(s) are those, if so?

Those are called Outermost Regions (OMRs), and there are 9 of them, for instance french guiana.

Due to their remoteness, they are exempt to some EU laws. But they are part of the European Union.

Then there are some regions which are part of the European Economic Area (EEA), but not the EU, like Norway or Switzerland.

And several further distinctions and special cases afaik.

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by mk89 »

immibis wrote: post #335
mk89 wrote: post #256

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The second paragraph is exactly why people don't trust when a platform is based in EU. I never heard of American presidents going after individuals on Twitter or other platforms. Neither Obama, nor Biden and also not Trump who is receiving so much hatred and bad words, without even touching the assassination attempt. Which is probably the only reason why they threatened to go after people, but that seems to be unders…

Europeans are generally okay with bullying and harassment being illegal.

We should not mix random unknown person being bullied online with VIPs or politicians being made fun of.

Even during the Roman Republic people could make fun of or heavily insult politicians, and also with ugly things that we could never say today. Even Julius Caesar was mocked heavily (the famous "every woman's man and every man's woman")

...unsurprisingly, this changed when the Republic ended and the Empire started.

And here we're today thinking about our sensitive politicians :)

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by nec4b »

zwnow wrote: post #382
nec4b wrote: post #376

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>>Oh no some immigrant stole something out of my garden I thought it was more because of them driving over people at Christmas markets, forming rape gangs or stabbing random people on the streets. It's deep intellectually dishonesty like yours that is driving them to that "party". Which is a bit ironic isn't it?

If you really believe this you need help

Oh, should we tell the BBC and Wikipedia to remove all these entries then:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2dz7r708dxo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Berlin_truck_attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Magdeburg_car_attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_E...

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by flumpcakes »

oytis wrote: post #289
dash2 wrote: post #212

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Europe can make alternatives to US tech Then why are there approximately no European tech companies? You remember that FT graph....

We did have alternatives to US tech, they just lost competition (fair or not) to US companies, and because tech is a winner takes it all industry, they ceased to exist. Should US companies leave EU though, we absolutely are in a position to have our own tech again.

They are either crushed my American monopolies and enforcing US laws abroad, or European companies are bought-out wholesale by American companies. Europe was too scared to enforce their own protectionist schemes because it always upset the US. Europe could be a superpower, if it wanted to.
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