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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by toasteros »

mardifoufs wrote: post #346
toasteros wrote: post #200

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The guy likely to take over is going to use non-emergency powers to curtail the rights of trans people. The sanctioned individuals were involved with blocking an international border. They had the stated intention of causing mischief and preventing leaving or entering Canada. They were blockading their own economy; they deserved what they got. You don't disrupt life and economy just because you've been asked to help…

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As I'm just a lowly computer technician, no I do not get to choose who gets rights. That is typically the domain of judges, lawmakers, and more fundamentally the founders of nations.

Preventing goods from crossing an international border is called a blockade. In most jurisdictions, this is regarded as a crime and is generally done to harm an economy. Crimes are often punished. Some aren't (like wage theft, not since 1955), but a lot are.

Interfering with a country's ability to trade with another country, as well as publicly threatening to kill law enforcement officers, is quite a serious offence.

I am not certain left-leaning government should not punish crimes, as it's generally seen as a good idea to ensure that activity that disrupts life or liberty of others doesn't happen, and judiciary measures are a part of that. I guess we COULD try an idea in which people are trusted not to do harm, that could be an interesting experiment.

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Post by mardifoufs »

throw0101d wrote: post #360
mardifoufs wrote: post #342

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> * But I hope you realize that it doesn't show anything. A federal or even provincial government can absolutely pass any law, with a simple majority, that doesn't respect the charter simply by invoking the non withstanding clause.* And the use of the withstanding clause has to be re-up every five years, as that is the maximum time before a new election is held so that The People™ can decide if they want to continue…

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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by Gormo »

freedomben wrote: post #350
throw0101d wrote: post #286

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> Offtopic to politics, but browsers these days support arbitrary text anchors. Find this extremely annoying, especially in search results: I want to start at the beginning of the article/post, and not some random place in the middle—which is where the highlighted snippet in the search results are from, but not helpful for learning the larger context. It also tends to mess up URLS that you may want to copy-paste as i…

Agreed. I'm in the minority I'm sure, but I think this is an anti-feature. In addition to your good points, it's also very fragile as a small change in the text of the page can break the link. It also leads to monstrous URLs that are quite hard to read for people who don't know about this feature.

It's a great way to link to the source of a verbatim quote, though. It goes straight to the relevant context, and breaks only if the source of the quote itself is somehow changed, making the new inconsistency clear.

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Post by avgDev »

TriangleEdge wrote: post #262

I have migrated from Canada to the USA and my metrics for wealth, ease of mind, actually working while at work, outgoingness, etc instantly improved. I don't plan on ever going back. I feel chagrin at seeing Canada fail. I'm glad to see Justin Trudeau pressured out, I know there won't be meaningful change associated with the decision, but I have hope.

I feel like this site has a bit of a bias when it comes to the USA. Most devs are highly compensated in the USA and can afford whatever.

Being poor or sick sucks here.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by ygjb »

interestica wrote: post #253

He has not (yet) resigned. He has announced his intention to resign. He will step down when a new leader is selected via the internal Liberal leadership race. Additionally, Parliament is prorogued until March 24 via his request of the Governor-General. “Trudeau to resign as prime minister after Liberal leadership race” https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-news-conference-1.7...

True, but this is normal; two other Prime Ministers have taken this approach over the last 30 years, Brian Mulroney and Jean Chretien both announced their intention to resign, and then held leadership conventions to select a new party leader before actually resigning.

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Post by tokioyoyo »

AnarchismIsCool wrote: post #337
tokioyoyo wrote: post #289

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If nobody believes it, then is it actually true?

Well, that is the ultimate philosophical rabbit hole. If everyone is doing better objectively but have been hammered with propaganda so much that they subjectively believe they're doing worse, how do you square that? I'd argue there's an easy solution in getting rid of the propagandists that are making everyone sad, so twitter, facebook etc.

Agreed, it’s a rabbit hole, so nobody is right. I’m just on the camp of — if people feel that they’re worse off than before, then telling them how “they have to feel better because of objective facts” won’t cut it.

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Post by TriangleEdge »

CamelCaseName wrote: post #376
TriangleEdge wrote: post #262

I have migrated from Canada to the USA and my metrics for wealth, ease of mind, actually working while at work, outgoingness, etc instantly improved. I don't plan on ever going back. I feel chagrin at seeing Canada fail. I'm glad to see Justin Trudeau pressured out, I know there won't be meaningful change associated with the decision, but I have hope.

What was your path of immigration into the US as a Canadian? Any tips or advice?

I got a TN while working for big tech, met my wife, got married, and got a married based GC. The GC took 2 years.

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Post by 3vidence »

Tiktaalik wrote: post #299

I never voted for Justin Trudeau and don't like him, but despite all the angry rhetoric right now in the long term I think he will be considered by history to be one of the better Canadian PMs. Amongst the Canadian PMs I've experienced, Chretien, Martin, Harper, Trudeau made the most impactful and positive policy changes (eg. legal cannabis, childcare) while navigating the country through the challenges of covid and…

There is absolutely no way he will be looked at as one of the better Canadian PMs..

By all accounts he will be looked at as one of the worst considering the position Canada was in at the start and end of his government.

Inflation, unemployment, housing, homelessness, healthcare, crime, national unity, the overall economy. .. Just all of these things are significantly worse than 2015.

With that being said I do think cannabis + child care were both wins... but like at what cost.

Also feels like with cannabis all of society was already trending there seemed like a very easy win.

Then with childcare it is a win but it is also complicated as many daycares have unenrolled from the program because it doesn't cover enough of the cost.

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Post by avgDev »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #359
sangnoir wrote: post #320

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The USA is great when you're working age and are healthy. Outside the 18-65 age range, not so much. I hope Canada will not morph into USA-lite.

Or if you have older family members you care about. Or if you don't want your children having to practice 'active shooter' drills during their school days.

My toddler had active shooter drills in day care.....I sometimes think about leaving US.
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