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Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Apple Intelligence is kind of uniquely bad. I don't understand how, but its AI message summaries often completely flip the meaning of texts I've received. I've gotten summaries that say "X person hates Y" and I read the message and it's them talking about how much they love it. It is impressively, wildly inaccurate. It confuses things like people's names and the messages they're sending and sometimes will paraphrase…

I’m not shocked they shipped. This is their mo now. Same as the apple maps rollout. Big fanfare about some feature competitors already had that apple would clone and do it better because apple. Apple releases it and its laughably worse. Apple wins the long game for some users because they privilege their app in the os relative to the third party option. And repeat for next feature.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Apple Intelligence is kind of uniquely bad. I don't understand how, but its AI message summaries often completely flip the meaning of texts I've received. I've gotten summaries that say "X person hates Y" and I read the message and it's them talking about how much they love it. It is impressively, wildly inaccurate. It confuses things like people's names and the messages they're sending and sometimes will paraphrase…

Agree, I'm hugely bullish on AI but this implementation is just so fucking bad. The Apple execs involved should feel a deep sense of shame and incompetence. What a joke. The Siri org leaders have proven to the world, time and time again, that they can't get anything right.

Years after siris release I can’t believe I am still getting 50 minute timers when I ask for 15. “Its only useful for setting timers” and not even that!

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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The one feature that I love is the Reduce Interruptions focus, which I now keep on all the time. Previous approaches like simply blocking notifications for most apps doesn't work, because some critical apps (like my Uber equivalent) also send spam notifications. The Reduce Interruptions focus quite accurately manages to hide unimportant notifications without me having to block everything. Except this isn't generative…

Me too! As an ADHD person I keep Reduce Interruptions always on and also make heavy, heavy use of the new AI-enhanced Siri. I think I'm making upwards of 100 Siri requests per day every day. Before Apple Intelligence Siri was much more limited.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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I turned on the AI features last week. Last night, Carplay noted I had an incoming text message. Instead of reading me the whole message, it summarized (poorly) the message, and then asked if I wanted to hear the entire message. I replied "yes", but it did nothing. A few minutes later, another message was received and the same thing happened.

There is no way this feature saw any acceptance testing prior to release.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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post #384

I turned on the AI features last week. Last night, Carplay noted I had an incoming text message. Instead of reading me the whole message, it summarized (poorly) the message, and then asked if I wanted to hear the entire message. I replied "yes", but it did nothing. A few minutes later, another message was received and the same thing happened. There is no way this feature saw any acceptance testing prior to release.

From the iPhone 16 settings page :

“Apple intelligence is not available when language is set to English ( United Kingdom )”

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

What I don't understand is, what benefit is there for 99% of companies to get in on the ground floor of LLMs? If you're not developing your own model, you're effectively just beta testing someone else's model. And if the sales pitch of LLMs being able to do basically anything comes true, wouldn't most companies still get the same benefit if they just wait? It seems like a lot of companies are so terrified of missing…

>What I don't understand is, what benefit is there for 99% of companies to get in on the ground floor of LLMs?

Wallstreet. These companies are largely based on increasing the share price. That's what shareholders want, that's what the board wants, and that's what the C-suite, compensated mostly in stock, wants. Nothing really matters except increasing the stock price, and right now the AI bubble is so damn superheated that if you do not announce something AI, you might be punished in the stock market as investors pull their money and put it somewhere that is willing to bullshit in order to collect some of that sweet hype money.

Because the vast majority of the stock market is literally a "greater fool" system. The point is not to make good companies that will enrich you with strong dividends forever, but rather to pump and dump. The entire point of the public market (for public companies) is that you can bullshit, pump up your stock price, and then dump those pumped up stocks onto a fool because you know the company isn't nearly as valuable as the stock says it is.

Private investors are so goddamned wealthy nowadays that it makes zero sense to engage with the public stock market, and the regulation and demands that it requires of you, unless you are trying to dump on bagholders.

Your average trader is so goddamned stupid you can literally run a company with no fundamentals and no plan and have a $13 billion market cap. Your entire business can be "sell shares repeatedly to these same losers who are blatantly illiterate, can't do basic math, and are outright gambling addicts" and retire on the free money that these people THANK YOU for taking. You can openly enrich yourself off these idiots, and they will vote for it willingly!

The point of being on the public market is to attempt to take advantage of these people and take their money.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

#387

So, surveys. "Smartphone users in general are unsatisfied with the existing AI features as the survey recorded 73% of Apple Intelligence users and 87% of Galaxy AI users stating the new features to be either ‘not very valuable’ or they ‘add little to no value’ to their smartphone experience." This could be read as 27% of users, who have tried a brand new way of interacting with their phone, found it useful to some de…

It also seems like the article title has a bias.

I think people only notice this when the bias goes against their thinking. Or when something is controversial in their minds and they agree strongly.

Personally, I think apple has deep pockets and it will eventually catch on. They have been helpfully auto-completing words when typing and identifying people in photos.

In a similar way I sort of hated amazon for "ask our AI" moving popup on the product pages.

But... below the non-obtrusive AI summary of the product reviews is actually helpful.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

#388

I used to be able to tell Siri "Turn off the lights." Sometimes in 2017 or 2018 they "updated" it and now it replies "Which room?" Followed by slowly listing out the 6 or 7 options including "everywhere." I haven't been able to reprogram myself to say "Turn off all the lights" which works as before. Hearing that reply is the equivalent of hitting your toe on a wardrobe. This update didn't fix this. The functionality…

This is a fundamental result of any natural language system. English is explicitly ambiguous, and explicitly a 1 dimensional medium.

Meanwhile using a screen, you can surface numerous easily discoverable options that a human being can quickly consume and choose, and the structure of the options can convey its own information, and you have lots of other signal channels like color.

I feel like people who insist that voice controlled computing is the future have never REALLY tried to voice control their computer with a voice, which has been eminently possible since at least Windows XP, and indeed is a way that disabled users have been interacting with computers for decades.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree about the summaries. I find them to be vey good and helpful. I teach a high level course and each week have the transcript summarized for students; also get feedback on my lecture and help creating the lesson plan for the following week. My father was Dean of one of the top teachers colleges in the world and has been blown away by how useful LLMs can be for education.

I hope you check them. AI meeting summary things are... well, not averse to making shit up, or getting things exactly wrong.

So far so good. Fathom has been great.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

#390

This seems largely like the new Apple, a company playing defensive/reactionary to shareholder impression, has to chase whatever the latest public craze is. During the Jobs era, it was whatever Steve thought was cool. Which was sometimes wrong as well, but it was less derivative than this new norm.

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