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TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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> US blows away all other countries in humanitarian aid too The problem is that they often do blow stuff away, quite literally. People aren't going to sing your praise for the new well you've dug after you've bombed their wedding and killed all their friends and family.

Such a cynical position. I predict there will be domestic calls in the near future to significantly curtail the US's extraordinary benevolence -- nobody seems to appreciate it anyway. And that will benefit nobody other than maybe China, which has its own history with killing innocents.

If you reduced the development aid but also stopped bombing people, regime changes and all that good stuff that brings instability to a region, I'm sure everyone would be fine with that.

If you want to do some good, take some refugees. Like, a significant number, not a homeopathic amount.

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I also have YT Premium. Those in video promos are so easy to skip. Most creators put them in the same spot every video, some even at the end. These are mostly regular people trying to earn a living making high quality content. I’m not seeing how you can begrudge them the few seconds of skippable ad copy.

I think many people have forgotten just how many ads are shown on television, where commercials typically occupy around 25% of on-air time.

I did not forget. But ads were the reason I entirely stopped to consume TV.

The same happend with youtube. I cant stand it anymore.

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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I also have YT Premium. Those in video promos are so easy to skip. Most creators put them in the same spot every video, some even at the end. These are mostly regular people trying to earn a living making high quality content. I’m not seeing how you can begrudge them the few seconds of skippable ad copy.

I think many people have forgotten just how many ads are shown on television, where commercials typically occupy around 25% of on-air time.

Everyone thought it was cool how episodes of The Walking Dead kept getting longer. But then someone ran the numbers and it turned out the episodes were still the standard ~40 minutes, and every single new minute past that was ads. And not just ads, but lots of super short ads, so they're even more annoying.

https://old.reddit.com/r/thewalkingdead/comments/86o9du/i_ti...

AMC does it in the spinoffs too.

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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If you admit that, the issue becomes actual reality, not authoritarianism per se, and the comparison between the US and China becomes very uncomfortable when democracy is no longer a crutch.

What the hell are you talking about? China is currently undergoing an active genocide.

It must be a serious indictment that an active genocide causes less fatalities than the war in Iraq, then.

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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A couple of years ago, I noticed the youtube recommendations that would get were a lot less interesting, though still relevant to me somehow. At some point I started seeing a lot more "mainstream" content, especially after media companies figured out that they needed to have a youtube presence in order to stay relevant. So I wonder if the algorithm the switched to had something to do with them potentially losing atte…

I wish someone could make a YouTube 2011 clone. Maybe call it YouTube classic — of course this would be a trademark infringement, so it would have to be named something else. But seriously, if I can get YouTube 2011 back with its human curated categories and recommended videos sidebar that is based on the video that is currently being watched, then I would be so happy!

I think I found today what I am looking for. https://utreon.com/ looks to be a close contender to what I seek.

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"abandoning"? it's still there.

> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_be_evil > formerly

It's still present in CoC

>https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/

>And remember… don’t be evil, and if you see something that you think isn’t right – speak up!

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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I refuse to use the YouTube app. The ads have gotten so bad. The website I can use an ad blocker and it’s fine to watch. I try using the app iOS or TVOS and it’s 3 ads to start and an ad every 5 minutes.

I recommend buying YouTube Premium. I’ve been a happy customer for a couple years now. It’s better for the creators compared to blocking ads too and they get paid based on your watch time. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6306276

It’s a shame that you’re forced to buy Google’s music subscription in order to pay for removing Youtube ads.

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How is that different than Facebook? We have known for Facebook shady data policies for 10 years, and that has never prevented people from using it, why do you think suddenly people would care more when it comes to TikTok?

US government is simply more civilized and predictable.

Please don't take HN threads into nationalistic flamewar. It's not what this site is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: TikTok overtakes YouTube for average watch time in US and UK

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This is a hit for US cultural dominance and influence. Americans and Brits, at least in average watch time, are now consuming media ultimately controlled by the Chinese government. And the previous election was influenced by a foreign government using American social media networks to influence, not to mention influencing the president-elect directly. Either America's own social networks are used against them or soci…

Spotify and Pandora dominated music streaming for years, while based in Europe. Nonetheless, I wouldn’t say they were indicative of a decline in American influence. Other countries’ companies can succeed whiteout diminishing America. Even China’s.

I thought Pandora started out of Oakland.
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