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Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Except the stay at home spouse doesn't get any pension/social security benefits from this, plus it tanks their career with massive impact on future earnings.

They get 50% of their spouse's benefits at that age.

As long as they were married for at least 10 years.

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Suggesting a tax refund is pretty clearly proposing they should not have to fund public schools.

Refund or voucher to the parent suffering it. Still not seeing how you went from that to “don’t you understand that non-parents should fund public schools?” The premise is that those hurt by it, parents, recover money to otherwise educate their kids. Nowhere in that was a claim that the childless should get money back for being childless, so I don’t see how addressing that is responsive.

But I don’t care if their kids use it. They are not funding their child, they are funding the system of public education.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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It is not a misconception in the U.S. This is one of many factors in determining the correct classification. https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employe...

Well, the article linked does not say that. > Services available to the market Does not mean the business cannot have a one client at a time.

>> Services available to the market >> >> An independent contractor is generally free to seek out business opportunities. Independent contractors often advertise, maintain a visible business location, and are available to work in the relevant market.

But it does mean that. If you aren't free to seek business opportunities, your services aren't available to the market. It's a factor, not the factor.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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>What could be more impactful than the social security numbers, personal information, and financial records of every adult in the US? You could already buy just about any adults SSN for a dollar from various breach aggregators well before the equifax leak, so literally nothing changed in that regard. Personal information? What? Names, addresses, dates of birth? The above still applies. Uber holds very detailed locati…

>You could already buy just about any adults SSN for a dollar from various breach aggregators well before the equifax leak, so literally nothing changed in that regard. Not only is this entirely speculative and needs a citation, just because others have experienced breaches doesn't mean you get to publicize private information, that once again, people did not consent to because they're not users or customers of Equif…

>Not only is this entirely speculative and needs a citation, just because others have experienced breaches doesn't mean you get to publicize private information, that once again, people did not consent to because they're not users or customers of Equifax.

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/09/data-broker-giants-hacke...

From 2013, but this stuff has been out on all the crime forums since early 2000s.

SSN leaks have not mattered for a long time.

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Why? you either have a BATNA or you don't.

Either you have a winning poker hand or you don't - oh wait: bluffing is a thing that people sometimes have to do - even in salary negotiations.

It doesn’t even have to be bluffing. Salary for a new position should be decided based on how much value you can bring to the position, and how much each party is willing to accept. Previous history is the most irrelevant part of the process.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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"Equifax flagged 283 contractors for potential 'dual employment,' documents show." Would this not be a big flag to reclassify these contractors as employees? Being able to have multiple clients is one of the factors to determine if you're a contractor...

I believe contractor in this sense is more like staff augmentation, e.g. Equifax pays a fee to $COMPANY, who, employs (W2) John Doe to work 40h/wk at Equifax as a "contractor." It's very common in local/state/federal government to have these C2C (company-to-company) contracting arrangements to get around regulatory or legislative limits on government employee pay. This is actually much more of an issue than someone j…

I've done this type of work in the past and I agree. It's probably contracting between companies, but the worker is likely an actual W2 employee of the contracting agency.

The catch however, is that this doesn't necessarily absolve Equifax of miscategorizing workers -- this was the subject of the famous Microsoft Permatemp lawsuit. It is possible for a W2 worker of a temping agency to also be considered a common law employee of the contracting corporation. In Vizcaino v Microsoft, the temps were found to be Microsoft employees -- even though they were also w2 employees of third party staffing agencies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permatemp#Vizcaino_v._Microsof...

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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>You could already buy just about any adults SSN for a dollar from various breach aggregators well before the equifax leak, so literally nothing changed in that regard. Not only is this entirely speculative and needs a citation, just because others have experienced breaches doesn't mean you get to publicize private information, that once again, people did not consent to because they're not users or customers of Equif…

>Not only is this entirely speculative and needs a citation, just because others have experienced breaches doesn't mean you get to publicize private information, that once again, people did not consent to because they're not users or customers of Equifax. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/09/data-broker-giants-hacke... From 2013, but this stuff has been out on all the crime forums since early 2000s. SSN leaks have not…

If it doesn’t matter, want to post your name, date of birth, and SSN here then?

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Why? you either have a BATNA or you don't.

Either you have a winning poker hand or you don't - oh wait: bluffing is a thing that people sometimes have to do - even in salary negotiations.

You might have a shot about bluffing with competing offers/opportunities.

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Semi-related, but Equifax runs The Work Number, which is basically your "employment credit report / record"; they hoover up the data by agreements with employers that they will share employment info with them. You can freeze your employment record with them here: https://employees.theworknumber.com/employee-data-freeze/ I highly recommend you do this, as any employer could just decide to look you up using this info a…

Do the other credit agencies have a similar program?

In the US at least, you have the right to freeze your credit report at any time. I've done it for the big 3 at least (Transunion, Equifax, Experian). It's all free (finally! it used to cost) and you can temporarily suspend the freeze to let someone run a check (e.g. applying for a new credit card).

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So the company in question has what legal right to investigate the employees of their contractors? Did the contractor’s employees sign off on this? It seems unlikely. A better remedy would be to fire the contract partner if you feel the work isn’t meeting the value you expect.

You can investigate whatever you want. If you read the article and look at the differences, they fired the Equifax employees outright. They "flagged" a bunch of contractors. That almost certainly means they sent that list of contractors to their employer companies and requested additional verification of hours and/or requested they be removed from their projects.

I’m more interested at what point they’re violating the FCRA, because I feel like they have to be somehow
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