Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by mden » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 4:51 PM UTC

dcolkitt wrote: post #197

IMO, this potentially opens up Facebook Inc. to securities fraud lawsuits. Corporate executives by default have a fiduciary duty to maximize shareholder returns. They don't have to abide by this, but if they take material action towards other goals, then they must clearly disclose it in public communications. (E.g. a non-profit company can't pretend that it's not to potential investors.) It's pretty hard to justify h…

"Corporate executives have a fiduciary duty to maximize shareholder returns"

My understanding is that that's an oft repeated myth - https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/04/16/what-are-co...

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by Thaxll » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 4:51 PM UTC

anonunivgrad wrote: post #366

gpm wrote: post #336

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I don't quite disagree with this, but I'm willing to defend those who do because a slightly different weighting in my priorities would make my disagree. Inciting violence should be punished by the law , not by Facebook. For regular people it makes sense to outsource some of this to Facebook, to minimize the load on the legal system. POTUS however is one very high profile person. His statements are not being missed by…

Trump did not incite violence. If anything, the media this summer was much more involved in inciting and fueling the BLM riots.

Yes he did, just watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBH7ql34Ex0 it's just lies and pushing people to do terrible things.

Trump is currently the most dangerous American alive, he's the most powerful person on the planet spreading lies over lies to his millions of followers.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by imwillofficial » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 4:52 PM UTC

hnaccy wrote: post #214

ndjdjxjsjdjdhd wrote: post #130

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So basically you are saying: - Asking for peace isn’t enough - And. He really needs to stop believing his claim of fraud? Wild. Am I crazy or is everyone else right now?

You're crazy.

This is a personal insult and does not elevate the level of discourse here. Please remove this.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by deadbeefisahex » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 4:52 PM UTC

sandworm101 wrote: post #294

lalos wrote: post #69

Interesting how they sing a different tune once the other party finally gets certification of the election results, time to get 'cozy' with the new people in power and set up those dinners [1] and ad deals with them. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerbe...

>> time to get 'cozy' with the new people in power and set up those dinners That is the system. Companies that want to make money need to keep on the good side of people in power. But isn't that how democracy works? Better that they adapt to every incoming elected administration than have them hold loyalties to old regimes. Seeing them so regularly bend to the will of voters isn't a horrible thing.

that's hardly the case though, big corps are effectively lobbying the government for big profits. they do have their lobbyists already set up for both parties it's not not the time to spend the time or the energy on the losing side for the next 4 years.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by qznc » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 4:52 PM UTC

xxpor wrote: post #256

rohan1024 wrote: post #154

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Also, now this will overshadow the WhatsApp blunder. Great timing.

Whatsapp doesn't have enough penetration in the US for that to have ever mattered. I'd watch the EU for news on that front.

Everybody looking at Johannes Casper who fought it in 2016: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-bans-whatsapp-data-transfer-to...

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by dspillett » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 4:52 PM UTC

lalos wrote: post #69

Interesting how they sing a different tune once the other party finally gets certification of the election results, time to get 'cozy' with the new people in power and set up those dinners [1] and ad deals with them. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerbe...

Exactly. If they wanted any respect for this they should have had the courage to do it a few years ago. As it is it shows moral weakness, not strength.

This is at best closing the gate after the horse has bolted, made it to the next county, been hit over on the motorway causing a massive multi-vehicle pile-up which left a fireworks transporting lorry in flames such that its rockets went off setting light to nearby chemical processing facilities.[1]

And that is being charitable. This is simply sucking up to the new regime the same way they've effectively sucked up to the old one, on the very day the transition was finally confirmed by all parties. It can't hurt that it will distract some attention away from the bad PR relating to WhatsApp.

[1] I look forward to the final stages of the story though: the horse in question declared lame after the accident and processed into glue.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by adewinter » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 4:53 PM UTC

q3k wrote: post #73

adewinter wrote: post #20

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Click "not now" and you don't have to.

No such button available here.

It's not a button it's a text link (probably grey/hard to see) at the bottom of the dialogue

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by tetrometal » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 4:53 PM UTC

What is unbelievable about that? It's completely reasonable. People were pissed about lack of election transparency. All they wanted were real audits of the election, but all they got was "Shut up, go home, there's no evidence, stop looking into things."

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by duxup » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 4:54 PM UTC

rohan1024 wrote: post #154

lalos wrote: post #69

Interesting how they sing a different tune once the other party finally gets certification of the election results, time to get 'cozy' with the new people in power and set up those dinners [1] and ad deals with them. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerbe...

Also, now this will overshadow the WhatsApp blunder. Great timing.

I think that was going to be hidden by the recent news regardless ;)

Most WhatsApp users probably don't know / care much anyway. Sadly.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 4:54 PM UTC

matz1 wrote: post #276

th0ma5 wrote: post #231

All of these HN comments are defending shouting "Fire!" falsely in a theater under the guise of it being a slippery slope before all speech is lost. I have lost a lot of respect for these slippery slope arguments because they are easy to make and ignore the obvious problem which is that some speech shouldn't be tolerated... Especially intolerant or harmful speech.

> which is that some speech shouldn't be tolerated who get to decide what should/shouln't be tolerated ? harmful/harmful ? facebook ?

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