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Post by Fellshard »

roenxi wrote: post #296
systemvoltage wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the most insane comment I've read in a long time, no offense to you personally. Being friends is orthogonal, and should be orthogonal to one's judgement and their duty as a judge. The entire world would be a better place if they do not follow the argument presented here.

You're not going to like the rest of the American political and justice system. The entire process is based on purposefully creating opposing and disagreeable forces. The whole thing was clearly created on a principle of opposing friendships between powerful forces.

A true friendship is not necessarily based on mutually-beneficial backroom deals. A sound friendship would have each party seeking to uphold and maintain the integrity of one another. To do otherwise is to reveal that it is not friendship, but rather opportunism, cronyism, or convenience - none of which have the stability or moral foundation of true friendship.

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Post by wu_tang_chris »

monocasa wrote: post #115
charliemil4 wrote: post #104

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[removed] It will be tough, but maybe they could

They've already started. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/trump-suprem...

He released the list back before Kavanaugh. He recently updated it.

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Post by nine_k »

op03 wrote: post #188

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I like how Slashdot handles it. Posts and comments do have counts, but the range is reasonably narrow, from -2 to +5. This allows for modding down noise, and modding up the signal, but this excludes the comparative phallometry typical for FB and twitter threads with hundreds and thousands on upvote counters.

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DayneRathbone wrote: post #208
op03 wrote: post #188

Remove the Publicly visible Like Count and those kind of conversations and connections are easy. The Like count makes people defensive or aggressive especially when they are called out in public leading to never ending reaction and counter reaction cycles. Without that dumb random signal interfering in conversations all kinds of strange connections are possible. I see it at work meetings between highly competitive pe…

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Post by throwaway6000 »

"BREAKING: Trump will quickly pick a replacement for Justice Ginsburg, and Sen. Mitch McConnell & the Republican-controlled Senate will move to confirm his nominee,creating a new political flashpoint in election while firing up evangelicals & shoring up GOP base and vote for Trump"

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Post by function_seven »

roenxi wrote: post #296
systemvoltage wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the most insane comment I've read in a long time, no offense to you personally. Being friends is orthogonal, and should be orthogonal to one's judgement and their duty as a judge. The entire world would be a better place if they do not follow the argument presented here.

You're not going to like the rest of the American political and justice system. The entire process is based on purposefully creating opposing and disagreeable forces. The whole thing was clearly created on a principle of opposing friendships between powerful forces.

The Supreme Court is not just another legislative branch.

But that being said, have you seen how many decisions are 5-4? Or 6-3, 7-2? It does not appear that whatever friendship that existed between Scalia and Ginsburg impacted their rulings and dissents on the matters before the Court.

It's completely possible—and I say preferable—to hold starkly contrasting political or legal views, but still like one another. We need more of that. It's how we stay one cohesive nation, instead of warring factions.

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Post by nerdponx »

colinmhayes wrote: post #359
colordrops wrote: post #347

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This idea that either the Republicans or Democrats have faith or principles is absurd. The Democratic brand is one of principles and altruism, but their actions do not reflect this.

Wrong. Democrats are principled to a fault.

It's getting hard not to believe that it's mostly a front.

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Post by tyre »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #325
tyre wrote: post #149

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Precisely. There is a desire, specifically and especially on the left, to get so caught up in their principles that people believe it is the primary source of change. For example: What should be the first acts and priorities be of a democratic administration? Healthcare? Nope. Climate change? Nope. A federal holiday for election days? Yes. Passing legislation mandating mail-in ballots? Yes. That’s how you think about…

Gerrymandering is at the top of my list. Solve that problem and it is easier to attack the other problems.

That would take a constitutional amendment.

The top three amendments (in my opinion) that the US needs most:

- ending gerrymandering

- taking money out of politics (federally financed elections)

- forcing votes on nominees within a certain time period, otherwise they are assumed confirmed

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Post by alasdair_ »

Just in case it becomes relevant in the next few days:

"'The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president,''

-Senator Mitch McConnell in 2016

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Post by kelnos »

ALittleLight wrote: post #308
kelnos wrote: post #195

Here's my prediction: Trump will nominate a successor in the next couple weeks. McConnell will start the process, but delay the vote until after the November election. This way: If Trump wins, McConnell can say that he was entirely reasonable and consistent, and he waited until after the election to ensure that the people really wanted Trump's SCOTUS nomination to be confirmed. If Trump loses, McConnell still has the…

High information Republican voters will know what he did and why, and will probably support his decision. Low information Republican voters will not know about his hypocrisy. Non-Republican voters won't vote for him regardless. I expect McConnel to just create some reason why things are different this time, or, if he wants to be a troll, to say "I was wrong in 2016" or just to not address the hypocrisy and go right o…

> I expect McConnel to just create some reason why things are different this time

I believe he already has. I read something a few months ago (can't find it now) where he was asked about replacing a hypothetical vacancy before the end of this year, and he hand-waved his way around the hypocrisy.

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