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Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by bargl »

tootie wrote: post #168
bargl wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate that it's become bad to send people your thoughts and prayers. It may not do anything, but to have meant so much to so many people is something worth thinking about.

It's only bad if you're doing it when you have the option of doing something helpful. Like politicians offering prayers for tragedies that are the result of bad public policy.

I've seen people who follow this line, and I respect it. It's when it bleeds over into the followers of those politicians that I get frustrated.

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Post by loceng »

seibelj wrote: post #178
theshadowknows wrote: post #162

Absolutely. My family is feverishly working on how to leave this hellscape of a country we’re in. The United States is dead.

I’m sad to say you may find the grass is always greener on the other side - government corruption exists everywhere that government exists.

Canada's looking fairly decent at the moment, however similar threats and pressure from global bad actors to deal with including in political arena.

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Post by ALittleLight »

leetrout wrote: post #103
mmaunder wrote: post #13

Worked right to the end even with her health challenges. What a role model.

Unsure: are you being sarcastic?

Death comes for all, soon or late And how can one die better, than holding powerful rank For the envy of your peers, and the bounty of your bank?

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by mhh__ »

disown wrote: post #89

I think this is the first time in a long while that a non-nytimes obituary post leads on HN. Did the nytimes social media team all move to npr? Anyways I think ginsburg is the perfect example of why we need age, health and/or term limits for SCOTUS. Lifetime appointments should not exist in any government position and health should be a consideration on whether someone can hold a major government position. It's embar…

The courts are politicized i.e. partisan, but holding Gender Equality "activism" up as an example of this would be counterproductive. This would make anything other than extreme textualism sacrilege, although equality is in the spirit of the constitution if not the attitudes of those who wrote it (i.e. They owned slaves).

Being in favour of gender equality, is a political statement - politics is a catch all term for every heated interaction between people that (hopefully) doesn't involve guns. You have to have some political principles to guide your court.

Also relevant, the recent Trans rights supreme court ruling - makes some people uneasy (Politics!) but still absolutely the right thing to do (in vacuo or within the context of the CRA). I would link to it but Visual Studio has just starting rebooting my computer...

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Post by systemvoltage »

roenxi wrote: post #245
stickyricky wrote: post #37

I think reading about Ruth and Antonin Scalia's friendship was the most wholesome political reading I've ever done. Hearing people divided in opinion, but not bitterly so, working together to figure out the best framework to construct American society from was inspirational. I hope the two halves of the political world can become friends in the way they were. Rest in peace Ruth. I hope if there's an after you and Ant…

Although the justices being friends is inevitable, it is not desirable. The justices would be more representative of the people - and probably dispense better justice - if there was an uneasy compromise between them based on basic principles of precedent and law. That isn't a very fun vision of life on the bench - and any system is imperfect - so I don't really advocate that. But the idea that these people are assert…

This is the most insane comment I've read in a long time, no offense to you personally. Being friends is orthogonal, and should be orthogonal to one's judgement and their duty as a judge.

The entire world would be a better place if they do not follow the argument presented here.

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Post by s5300 »

roenxi wrote: post #245
stickyricky wrote: post #37

I think reading about Ruth and Antonin Scalia's friendship was the most wholesome political reading I've ever done. Hearing people divided in opinion, but not bitterly so, working together to figure out the best framework to construct American society from was inspirational. I hope the two halves of the political world can become friends in the way they were. Rest in peace Ruth. I hope if there's an after you and Ant…

Although the justices being friends is inevitable, it is not desirable. The justices would be more representative of the people - and probably dispense better justice - if there was an uneasy compromise between them based on basic principles of precedent and law. That isn't a very fun vision of life on the bench - and any system is imperfect - so I don't really advocate that. But the idea that these people are assert…

Are you trying to say that you don't believe in integrity?

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Post by basementcat »

jamiequint wrote: post #207
tyre wrote: post #86

For every one of the coming takes that Republicans will be hypocrites to appoint and confirm a justice (which they will) They do not give a fuck. That’s not how they see power and it is why they have a far disproportionate share of power/representation than their support across the electorate. This is about power. In politics, nothing else matters.

Hillary won the popular vote by 1.1% and currently the Republicans hold a razor thin Senate majority and have been substantially outpaced by Democrats in the House, so I'm not really sure where you get the idea that there's a "far disproportionate share of power/representation". It seems pretty proportionate to me.

65,853,514 to 62,984,828, about 2.1%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidentia...

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Post by gilrain »

DayneRathbone wrote: post #208
op03 wrote: post #188

Remove the Publicly visible Like Count and those kind of conversations and connections are easy. The Like count makes people defensive or aggressive especially when they are called out in public leading to never ending reaction and counter reaction cycles. Without that dumb random signal interfering in conversations all kinds of strange connections are possible. I see it at work meetings between highly competitive pe…

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Too fucking soon.

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Post by bscphil »

dexterdog wrote: post #65
paxys wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He ideally should be able to, as long as the correct procedures are followed. Republicans, however, set the precedent by not allowing Obama to appoint one in his last year in office. My money, however, is on them ramming someone through anyways.

But that was a republican senate that had the power to confirm or not. Now you have a republican president and senate so if they want to ram somebody through they can do that.

I don't think anyone disputing that they can do it, the point is that it's hypocritical. And the Republican Senate didn't "not confirm" Obama's pick, they refused to consider him at all, arguably a dereliction of their duty under Article 2 of the US Constitution.

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Post by kwhat4 »

The republicans know how to win, and will do so by any means necessary. The democrats seem happy taking the high road to yet another humiliating defeat. This is why I'm done voting and pretending it makes a difference.
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