I always thought I would dislike the tabs. Well after upgrading, I was right. Congrats, you succeeded to make them uglier than Chrome's.
I'm even surprised I hate the non-active tabs more than the active one.
Sorry about the rant.
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Re: Firefox 29
#362[Sorry for going meta] As I write this, the story is about one hour old, there are 118 other comments and the top voted comment - the top voted comment - is criticism by someone who doesn't use Firefox. The comment is totally without technical analysis of why Firefox does what it does nor does it mention anything that FireFox gets right. The only positive thing the author says involves dragging out some tired anti-mi…
So true. I was hoping for a discussion on improved WebGL support (if any), performance improvements, new HTML5 feature support, etc. rather than whether the address bar and search bar should be merged. The latter is important, but IMO should not be the most discussed item.
Re: Firefox 29
#363Earlier quoted context omitted.
I disagree. The reference why Apple added Full Screen. Why did Apple make a Full Screen feature in their operating system? Minimalism and simplicity. Why does Firefox have a fullscreen option? Because most browsers had that option and it's a useful feature once in a while. Not a compelling reference.
Do you have a source for this, or did you just make up some reasons to justify mentioning Apple? ...
Do pay attention. This sub thread started with a mention of Apple.
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#364Earlier quoted context omitted.
you can put it in quotes, and it should execute it as search vs address. the only argument for having a separate box i can think of is it you wanted a separate search engine associated to address bar, vs search box.
Chrome's solution is to have ctrl-K move focus to the address bar and fill in a ? at the start, but I'm not a huge fan. Same for having to type in quotes. Mainly I don't like that it buries the fact that searching is a separate action and that you can pick what you're doing. And I think it's even more of a problem for inexperienced users, because to them the program is saying "Doing this action will randomly either s…
you can set which search engine used in address bar, just like you would in search bar.
i never use ? or quotes, because in 99.9% cases the search is very different from an address, and it's easy to tell which is being proposed. I also love having search recommendation for 5% searches where i am not sure of exact wording.
and yes, it's more of a power user feature, which is why i like it.
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#365Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There isn't a feature in Chromium or Google Chrome that Firefox doesn't deliver. Multi-process browsing. It is incredibly annoying when my entire browser locks up because one of the fifty tabs I have open is doing something stupid. That never happened in several years of using Chrome, and it happens several times a day in Firefox.
So imagine you are a person that stopped browser hygiene during a few months while finishing their PhD and now _still_ carries around about 900 open tabs waiting to be sorted into bookmarks and junk. (Yeah, that's me.) I have to re-start Firefox every 48 hours or else its resource consumption starts affecting the overall system. This is my primary issue with current Firefox versions, although I am aware that I'm an n…
Right-click the tab bar, select "Bookmark all tabs", save them all to a new folder (name it after the current date or whatnot).
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#366Earlier quoted context omitted.
The word processor can spay what you are typing. Also this web page can spy the comment I am typing. Including the stuff I deleted. Please before it say "it spies", show us what it captured and sent to third-parties (ie not YOU).
"The word processor can spay what you are typing. " I for one am displeased when my missives are neutered by my text editors. :)
The word processor can spay the Firevixen :)
Re: Firefox 29
#367Looks like Firefox is still incredibly laggy on a 13" MBP Retina, which is a shame. Safari runs perfectly, so I wonder what the issue is.
Most likely it is your extensions. I have the same issues when I load one particular extension which I can't live without. Unfortunately Firefox's major weakness is its major strength.
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#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lets not pretend that every keystroke you type into the Omnibar being sent to Google is the same as using Fastmail. They're extremely different from a privacy perspective.
Let's not pretend that Chrome forces you to send every keystroke to Google. It's a feature controlled by a check box that most people find convenient. It's exactly like using Fastmail. It's a convenience over self-hosted mail that sends all my email to Fastmail. Just like Omnibox, you have a choice to use it, and just like Omnibox, it sends a lot of personal information to a third party.
When I use gmail for mailing lists it doesn't result in Google getting my self hosted personal mail or my work mail. It's not really analogous at all. And even if it were— a different privacy leak doesn't make other ones irrelevant.
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#369Earlier quoted context omitted.
>That's true. So it's even more important to retain them by having sensible defaults. Not really. What is wrong with having a product that caters to a power user, or a niche group? Why does everything have to be dumbed-down for the "user on the street"? If you want dumbed-down then use the browser that came with your OS. If want something that isn't dumbed-down then you most likely have the know-how to customize your…
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a product for power users. Again, nobody in the thread said there was. Firefox is a browser for everyone. It focuses on freedom and privacy. The browser that came with your OS most likely does not. There is no minimum level of technical expertise required. The UX is designed to be simple.
I still have to disagree with you. I don't buy into your "street person" argument at all. I don't think you give people enough credit. Just about anyone born in the U.S. (or any first world country) in the late 80's and after will probably know how to customize a tool bar in a web browser. Even if they grew up poor and didn't own a computer it would be hard to not have this knowledge after going thru a public school system. If your "street person" happens to be a baby-boomer, then maybe.
Re: Firefox 29
#370I liked the screenshots but I really don't like using it...
* it's no longer possible to open a new tab by double-clicking in the tabs bar, seriously guys...
* I really liked the Ctrl + / status bar, I used it to drop my add-ons icons, it didn't use much space and I was able to use them whenever I wanted, now I can't do this anymore (except if I overload the top bars with icons I use... say once a week ?) // EDIT: I just figured out I can use the sandwich menu to do this, that's pretty cool
* it's not possible anymore to move the refresh button... WHY ? I loved it on the left with the previous/forward buttons, why would it be in the URL bar ?
* and it seems it's no longer possible to add a button to show the bookmarks (Ctrl+b), there's only this awful double button with "add fav" and this useless menu.
It's beautiful but lacks a lot of customizations that were possible before... I'm really considering switching to another browser (maybe Opera ?)