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Re: Firefox 29

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Post by noisy_boy »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #259
nfoz wrote: post #45

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They started following the Chrome screwed-up-statusbar a long time ago. It's like noone in the webdev space knows the basic usability adage, "Don't use popups!". The Chrome-style hover-status thing is a popup. Statusbars are correct.

Disagree. The statusbar is barely useful for me - all I use it for is to peek at where links will take me; it's good to save that real estate for content. Things that default to the statusbar (some app buttons) I put up top in the addressbar, with a wide screen there's plenty of room for a few buttons there.

The status bar is excellent for what the name indicates i.e. status. FoxyClocks in a great example - allows me to check the time in different countries at a glance, is too wide to fit on a top-side toolbar and basically something that is always present but not obtrusive.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by Wicher »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #79
dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. Exactly how I like it, I HATE getting search results when I make a type-o, or try to go to an internal site and forget to specify http://

You will then probably also like to set browser.fixup.alternate.enabled to False in about:config, to disable the trying to go to 'whatyoutyped.com' and such when hitting an NXDOMAIN.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by fiendsan »

the lack of options is what kills me, also the UI is filled with clear design flaws, and i still need an addon-bar, now i have to use even more add-ons just to make it work like it used to... ohh but we still have the weak performance, thats far from a priority...

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by actionscripted »

nandhp wrote: post #85
zethraeus wrote: post #73

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I love it. The status bar struck me as weird cruft that was irrelevant the vast majority of the time. I've been using it in aurora and beta for a while now and I quite like the screen real estate.

It's not a new feature, either. The statusbar has been a "only when hovering on a link" for many releases. Yet another feature copied from Opera....

At this point some of the most beloved browser features in nearly every browser came from Opera.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by lern_too_spel »

bqe wrote: post #283
lern_too_spel wrote: post #261

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You could make the same criticism about hosted email. Do you run your own email server and communicate only with other PGP users?

Lets not pretend that every keystroke you type into the Omnibar being sent to Google is the same as using Fastmail. They're extremely different from a privacy perspective.

Let's not pretend that Chrome forces you to send every keystroke to Google. It's a feature controlled by a check box that most people find convenient.

It's exactly like using Fastmail. It's a convenience over self-hosted mail that sends all my email to Fastmail. Just like Omnibox, you have a choice to use it, and just like Omnibox, it sends a lot of personal information to a third party.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by ecnahc515 »

angersock wrote: post #274
yahelc wrote: post #15

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Developer Release Notes: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Releases/29

"Added the console API to Web Workers (bug 620935). Now you can log messages to the Web Console from Web Workers." About bloody time. Does anyone know why that wasn't the case from the get-go?

Cause printing functions usually aren't thread safe I'd assume it has to be a similar reason.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by GFK_of_xmaspast »

hbt wrote: post #212

If you want a highly customizable browser, Firefox is it. Chrome is in its infancy when it comes to customization and they often make decisions that prevent power users from taking advantage of their browsing experience. For example, they've disabled custom stylesheets in recent releases despite a clear indication that people were sharing themes, they have very old bugs that don't get resolved (like the stupid white…

"There isn't a feature in Chromium or Google Chrome that Firefox doesn't deliver."

On this ubuntu machine, "the ability to have a bunch of tabs displaying pdfs open at once" is a really big selling point for chrome.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by nfoz »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #259
nfoz wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They started following the Chrome screwed-up-statusbar a long time ago. It's like noone in the webdev space knows the basic usability adage, "Don't use popups!". The Chrome-style hover-status thing is a popup. Statusbars are correct.

Disagree. The statusbar is barely useful for me - all I use it for is to peek at where links will take me; it's good to save that real estate for content. Things that default to the statusbar (some app buttons) I put up top in the addressbar, with a wide screen there's plenty of room for a few buttons there.

I can't accept a message popping up over top of existing content, distracting the user to a different part of the screen, based on mouse-hover of all things (so it's sure to jump out all the time). They mitigate this a bit by adding time-delays but that's even worse.

The status bar IMO should have more things e.g. download status, but the browsers chose not go to that direction. OK, then remove the statusbar and put the link-direction in the location bar instead during the hover.

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