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Re: Firefox 29

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Post by nandhp »

hbt wrote: post #212

If you want a highly customizable browser, Firefox is it. Chrome is in its infancy when it comes to customization and they often make decisions that prevent power users from taking advantage of their browsing experience. For example, they've disabled custom stylesheets in recent releases despite a clear indication that people were sharing themes, they have very old bugs that don't get resolved (like the stupid white…

> There isn't a feature in Chromium or Google Chrome that Firefox doesn't deliver.

Multi-process browsing. It is incredibly annoying when my entire browser locks up because one of the fifty tabs I have open is doing something stupid. That never happened in several years of using Chrome, and it happens several times a day in Firefox.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by ubercow13 »

NathanKP wrote: post #54

Overall I love the redesign, but I wish they would have compacted the top chrome a bit so it matches the height of other major browsers. Firefox has slightly taller chrome for no good reason, as seen in this picture: http://i.imgur.com/BlPRitn.png When I'm doing cross browser development I want my stuff to line up in all three browsers. At least Firefox no longer has the heaviest browser chrome. Safari wins that dubi…

You can reduce it because yes it is useless. Something like this (one of these is pointless but I can't remember which one..)

  /* correct titlebar icons position */
  #titlebar-content > * {
    margin-top: -6px;
  }

  /* Reduce the padding between the URL bar and the tabs/content */
  #nav-bar-customization-target {
    margin-top: -2px !important;
    margin-bottom: -2px !important;
  }

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by sp332 »

nikolak wrote: post #235
sp332 wrote: post #164

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I have no idea - mine uses 184MB. It's been much slimmer than Chrome for me for about a year. Even when I use lots of extensions, it's up to 340MB which is less than Chrome's 400MB.

Firefox uses less memory only on startup and when I have few tabs open. As soon as I start opening more tabs and browsing longer the memory usage is much larger on FF and the whole UI becomes less responsive and so do pages. Even on startup it isn't that better compared to chrome. Chrome 11 extensions 1 tab: ~300MB FF 2 extensions 1 tab: ~200MB It's not FF 29, it's 28 - but I doubt the memory management improved much…

That surprises me even more, since Chrome has a lot more overhead per tab (often a whole process per tab), so I expected Firefox to have a bigger advantage the more tabs you have open. Edit: I just tried opening about 24 tabs of webcomics in each, and Chrome jumped to over 1GB of RAM while FF is about 600MB.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by hub_ »

mcmullen wrote: post #102
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #79

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Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. Exactly how I like it, I HATE getting search results when I make a type-o, or try to go to an internal site and forget to specify http://

I believe Safari solves this on iOS/Mac by treating the address bar as the "search option" - whether that's your memorised URL, stored bookmarks, google, history or (and my favourite...) the page. Like the chap above your comment, I absolutely despise having the Firefox differentiation because my habit is to click the address bar and then depending on whether I have realised the mistake before/after hitting enter it'…

Also Safari on iOS send the type ahead information for search suggestions. By default. Even in Private Browsing mode. And the switch is all or none.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by hub_ »

abus wrote: post #209
alxgbsn wrote: post #194

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I'm a web developer on mozilla.org, so can provide some information here. The "mozUITour" API is specific to Firefox 29, and can only be used on mozilla.org, which is a white-listed domain that is hard-coded into the browser. The API is also pretty basic, in that it can highlight a limited number of target icons, and open a limited choice of menu's. The purpose of the API is strictly for on-boarding flows, such as th…

It can spy on what you type in the address bar... Hilarious when the new header is "Committed to your privacy".

The word processor can spay what you are typing. Also this web page can spy the comment I am typing. Including the stuff I deleted.

Please before it say "it spies", show us what it captured and sent to third-parties (ie not YOU).

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by slight »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #79
dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. Exactly how I like it, I HATE getting search results when I make a type-o, or try to go to an internal site and forget to specify http://

You made a typo!

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by agapos »

abus wrote: post #218
maxerickson wrote: post #154

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If it is official, they should verify the author. (Or admit that the notification that the author is not verified is meaningless) edit: Also, on my install, the version there makes Firefox 29 lock up when I click on options. But my profile is pretty ancient.

My mistake, sorry, I thought it was official because it's linked to on the Mozilla support page and I thought the developer "Aris" related to "Australis".

The similarity in names is only a coincidence.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by lern_too_spel »

cookiecaper wrote: post #114
conductor wrote: post #110

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> Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. As a user, I don't want to have to make this distinction, and it's hard to imagine most users-on-street wouldn't find this confusing As a user, I want separate edit bars for separate functions. I don't want Google know everything I type (or mistype) in the address bar. When I type foobar in the address bar please give me anything that returned the web server at foo…

I encourage Chrome users to go check the search history attached to their Google account. It exposes a lot of data that you didn't realize you were sending to Google (including letter-by-letter entry of search terms/urls) and may give a newfound respect for Firefox's separation, whether you personally care enough to make the switch or not.

This was a big deal on /. when Chrome launched. As several /.ers pointed out, there is a setting for that in Chrome, so it isn't a good reason to prefer one browser over another. http://www.thechromesource.com/how-to-turn-off-search-sugges...

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by petulla »

dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

Use customization to lose the extra search bar. Then you can have a single, clearn bar on top.

If you need to access it, command-k is your friend.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by ubercow13 »

amarraja wrote: post #57
exodust wrote: post #13

What's this about the status bar / add-on bar gone? The main reason why I use Status-4-Evar is because when I hover over a link I don't want that link to pop-over the page content, which is what Chrome did first, then Firefox copied like sheep. It's distracting, like a tiny little pop-over in the corner of your eye. I like having URLs show in a status bar separate to the main web window. It's out of the way, and I ju…

It's the first thing I noticed changed, and the first thing I tried (and failed) to re-enable. I am part of the "don't like change" crowd, but normally just get used to it can carry on. This is the first functional change which actually made me a little angry! EDIT: Found this to restore just the addon bar: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/the-addon-bar... Nerdrage subsiding

To me this is basically essential at the moment. Not because I hate change and am stubborn but because many extensions are still completely broken in Australis, and many websites are and will always be broken by badly implemented popup status bars
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