Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 18, 2026, 3:27 AM UTC

this_user wrote: post #90

moooo99 wrote: post #70

It is amazing how Volkswagen keeps messing up. I am currently in the market for a new car, an EV specifically. Volkswagen brands were at the top of my list for many reasons, among them the excellent driving assist implementation. I got an offer from a dealer three weeks ago and was going to order the car, then the API for the community integration got turned off. I decided to hold back and see what comes from it. Now…

German companies, especially old school industrial ones like VW, have a very hard time understanding open platforms. The view everything through the lense of liability and compliance first. Their thinking is that if someone runs their app on a custom ROM and uses that to manipulate the app in any way, and that causes some extremely hypothetical damage, that they might be held liable for not having prevented this situ…

Post by Magnusmaster » Thu, Jun 18, 2026, 3:36 AM UTC

gonzalohm wrote: post #56

iAMkenough wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think of the children that will bypass all of the "protections" recently adopted by the UK.

How would they even do that? A VPN is just a remote machine. Anything can be a VPN

Post by ifh-hn » Thu, Jun 18, 2026, 4:20 AM UTC

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #333

Gigachad wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does a car even need an app? Don't they have a screen and internet connection on the car itself?

Why does a car even need an Internet connection? I'd prefer a car without. I recently bought a 2024 model Chinese EV, and it doesn't seem to have an internet connection of its own. Neither does it seem to have an app. Reasons I could think of for an app: Remotely check battery charge, and that would purely be for interest rather than necessity. I get why people might like or want remote heating/cooling as well, and I…

Post by cuu508 » Thu, Jun 18, 2026, 4:55 AM UTC

storus wrote: post #144

iroddis wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably made worse by the fact that _every_ VW brand car I’ve driven has read about 10% high on the speedometer. I think I’m going 100 kph, but timing using the km markers on the highway show I’m going about 90. When I talked to the dealers, they said that the speedometers only have to be accurate +/- 10% according to the SAE specifications. After DieselGate I assumed that the high reading was to game the fuel consu…

Just use the speed reported by your GPS. Most navigation apps show the GPS-based speed.

Post by tadfisher » Thu, Jun 18, 2026, 5:13 AM UTC

Perseids wrote: post #210

formerly_proven wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I had to guess it’s liability concerns around the app-based remote unlock and parking + R155 and CRA. A lot of european companies have moved to require attestation in their apps, likely spurred on by the CRA.

But why? I'd understand (though not approve) them tightening down everything about the car firmware to the max. They are responsible for the app, sure (it's a "digital element"), but they aren't responsible for the OS the app runs on. The CRA should not be used as an excuse to enact stupid restrictions.