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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by MangoToupe »

cess11 wrote: post #314
MangoToupe wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if it would result in worse living conditions Well nobody is forcing Denmark to be a dick about decolonization, nor a dick to all the people it never colonized. That's a choice. > This is quite belligerent and nasty behaviour So was colonizing, well, anywhere. Europe still hasn't been appropriately punished for this. And yes, the US deserves to be punished severely for its own brutal conquests.

Currently Denmark participates in financing Greenland, pulling the rug on it would likely not be pleasant for the greenlanders and if they did I'd count that as rather dickish unless the greenlanders had a near consensus on the issue and asked the danish parliament to do it. Well, some justice have been sought and won, but a lot remains. To me it seems like an attempt at distraction to clump together the treatment of…

Ok, why doesn't denmark finance birundi?

> Well, some justice have been sought and won

And yet denmark hasn't burned. How do you remediate this contradiction?

> To me it seems like an attempt at distraction to clump together the treatment of the Mau Mau and the nuking of Algeria with Denmark's relation with Greenland.

Believe me, britain deserves far worse than just being burned down. But denmark still must face justice

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by Jon_Lowtek »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #103
breve wrote: post #4

A necessary step to reduce risk to infrastructure given that the US government has become erratic and has decided it is now anti-Europe. The US means to undermine the EU: https://www.dw.com/en/will-trump-pull-italy-austria-poland-h... The US means to annex European territory: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j9l08902eo It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure.…

> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. Using this logic, every country should develop its own critical equipment from scratch, in terms of both hardware and software. My belief is that there is no problem with the Chinese equipment, just scare-mongering from the US because it has no manufa…

According to the "Huawei cyber security evaluation centre" (HCSEC) oversight boards annual report to the national security adviser of the United Kingdom (note: HCSEC was a joint lab between NSCS, GCHQ and Huawei with a lot of access to internal documentation and firmware source code and so on to check if they are telling the truth when they promised there is no backdoor for the chinese ministry of national security in the 5G equipment) their quality and basic security processes are so bad, that it is believable that all the vulnerabilities are unintentional. However they did improve in the years prior to being kicked out, so you are not wrong that it was somewhat of a bandwagon move following the us sanctions.

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Post by bayindirh »

BSDobelix wrote: post #339
bayindirh wrote: post #275

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That's a small blip on the timeline. If you want some serious, long running stuff, you should read Crypto AG scandal.

>Crypto AG The cracked encryption was not given to "friends" but country's like Libya

> not given to "friends"...

US started to eavesdrop on Turkey and Greece first. Germany pulled out of the project by citing this is going too far for them. Some citations from news:

The Germans were taken aback by the Americans’ willingness to spy on all but their closest allies, with targets including NATO members Spain, Greece, Turkey and Italy [0].

Operation Rubicon [1] has a map of spied countries, incl. NATO allies and "friends".

I failed to find that great long-read article. If I can find, I will attach it here, too.

[0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/national-...

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rubicon

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Post by mk89 »

tormeh wrote: post #167
TrickyRick wrote: post #75

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SAP needs servers though, if they buy SAP hosted in AWS that kind of defeats the purpose.

Indeed. And SAP has no cooperation with any European cloud providers, afaik. It's the big three plus alibaba. SAP wants to move away from on-prem, but I guess it has a solution for critical applications. Maybe that can be shoehorned onto OVH or something.

It seems OVH does support SAP. https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/solutions/sap/

How good/bad it is, I have zero expertise.

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Post by talideon »

andsoitis wrote: post #349
victorbjorklund wrote: post #330

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US says that Europe is their number one enemy. Using American tech is the most risky thing you can do since Trump declared that they are now a hostile enemy with intents of overthrowing European democracies.

> US says that Europe is their number one enemy. Pardon my French, but where do you get that nonsense from?

The latest US national security strategy, one would assume.

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Post by mopsi »

nephihaha wrote: post #323
watwut wrote: post #246

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Right now EU is not arresting own citizens for failure to provide ID card while america does that even when said people have id card. EU is not demanding 5 yeara of social media public from kids entering in. EU is not killing fisherman to feel manly. EU is overall more democratic and more free. The parts that sux Hungary and Slovakia dont sux because of EU, but despite it. It is ok for Germany to not have homeschooli…

The EU is not more "free". There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Most of the EU does not have the same freedom of expression or religion that the USA guarantees in its founding documents. The collective cannot have freedom if the individual does not. That includes the right to disagree. The EU and USA are going down the same road. Social media is a part of this censorship of open discussi…

  > There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for.
Such as? I honestly can't think of anything.

  > It is unacceptable to ban homeschooling. Some children need to be homeschooled, because of disabilities, or even high intelligence.
European education laws prioritize the child's right to education and social development over parental autonomy as an absolute. Mandatory schooling laws have been adopted to ensure minimum educational standards and to safeguard against neglect and abuse, which is especially important when it comes to disabilities. Someone with proper training and decades of experience will educate a disabled child far more effectively than a parent whose only guaranteed qualification may be knowing how to have sex.

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Post by reeredfdfdf »

MangoToupe wrote: post #121
breve wrote: post #4

A necessary step to reduce risk to infrastructure given that the US government has become erratic and has decided it is now anti-Europe. The US means to undermine the EU: https://www.dw.com/en/will-trump-pull-italy-austria-poland-h... The US means to annex European territory: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j9l08902eo It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure.…

> You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. It's not clear that europe even trusts europe anymore. Especially with french and german economic dominance looking shakier than ever, debt financing an unpopular war in the east piling up, mounting deficits, industry collapse, youth unemployment... european countries (or greenland for that matter) could do a whole lot worse than turning to china…

Yea, in 29 Germany, France and UK will have elections, and far-right parties with anti-EU and partially pro-Russian attitudes are leading the polls. If they win, there will be hardly any unified "Europe" left. Why would I then trust Germany ruled by AfD over MAGA-America?

At least with China there's some consistency. I can reliably trust them not to give a shit about me or my privacy, and to further their geopolitical interests. Meanwhile populists in the West aren't really even acting rationally from geopolitical perspective, they're more unpredictable.

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Post by nothrabannosir »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #262
Derbasti wrote: post #90

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The difference is, Europeans used to trust their US partners, and built a lot of infrastructure on US services. This trust has been betrayed, so things now need to change. It never existed to begin with with China, so no change is necessary. That's not "melodramatic".

There never was a relationship of mutual trust, it was always a relationship of Europe being under the wing of the US as a buffer against the USSR. The US now wants to push Europe out of the nest, but most Europeans have only ever known life "living in their parents house". Building an independent Europe is not compatible with the current European ethos of work/life/life/life balance, and will likely result in Europe…

>> The difference is, Europeans used to trust their US partners

> There never was a relationship of mutual trust

Technically, you're not disagreeing with GP. :)

Or :( I guess.

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Post by saubeidl »

MangoToupe wrote: post #360
tokai wrote: post #312

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You know nothing about this, so stop spreading your made up lies. A roadmap for Greenlandic independence is in place. The Greenlandic parliament is controlling the speed of this process.

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It is European right now. It's under European sovereignty.
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